Goodbye bullet lube, goodbye leading

[Caneman]

at lunch today i went to walmart and picked up my $19 toaster oven:

[Steve4102]

Is this the same stuff?

http://www.csipaint.com/products/powder-coatings/pro-tec-powder-paint.php

[The_Shadow]

There are several types of powder paints, some are polyester some are epoxy...
There was plenty info here http://www.peridiumpowder.com/index.html

http://www.peridiumpowder.com/powder_info/tgic.html

[sqlbullet]

Has anyone tried dropping from the mold into the powdered paint?

[The_Shadow]

I thought about that, however I think it would make more of a clumping mess, as it would tend to melt and become sticky.
May not apply as evenly.

[Yondering]

Has anyone tried dropping from the mold into the powdered paint?

I haven't tried dropping from the mold, but I have dipped hot bullets in the powder. Uneven application would be the problem, and it melts on way too thick.

I received the red powder from ebay (linked above, good buy for the quantity), and dipped the noses of some of my "zombie green" rifle bullets in the red to mark them. I tried them cold (& dry) first; it works for marking but doesn't give a solid layer like tumbling.

After baking that batch, while they were still hot from the oven, I dipped the noses in the powder. The first few worked well, and the powder melted to the nose immediately. The rest of them were cooling down though, so the powder stuck, but not evenly, and didn't melt. Even after baking, the uneven application and excessively thick red layer was evident on all of them. I think dipping them quickly in the powder, while they're hot enough, works well for marking the noses, but not well enough for coating the whole bullet.

[The_Shadow]

Yondering, I was looking over several application methods and one guy doing fishing jig heads, he was using a heat gun, that may help with your tip marking.  Or one of the small propane torches with pin point tip flame for brief concentrated heat source. 

[Yondering]

Yeah, a heat gun is a good idea, thanks. Just to keep them hot enough to dip the noses. The thickness is still a problem though; it might make sense to just dip them in regular paint for marking; the noses don't touch the bore anyway.

[Caneman]

there is a pretty good thread going on right now on CB where one guy has reported barrel erosion in the first 1" or so after a thousand rounds using HF PC... some chemists chimed in and said it is possible that silica is in the coating which would act as an abrasive... they also said try to use "high gloss" PC as these most likely will not contain the silica... FYI

[sqlbullet]

Good to know.  Thanks.

[Yondering]

Good to know. Yet another reason to not use the Harbor Freight powder. Good Polyester powder isn't that much more expensive.

[The_Shadow]

When looking at the Harbor Freight products I saw they were epoxy based, I have seen some epoxies that would yield sparks from a grinder wheel...
Yondering I think the polyesters such as the TGIC might be the safer product...however I'm still doing some more research to avoid any issues.  But my leading issues haven't been that bad either...

[schtoolee]

Here is an outfit that has every color under the sun.  http://www.prismaticpowders.com/
Looks like there RAL colors are Polyester based. Basic price is $11.95 a pound, but they also have closeouts the go quite a bit less.

[gandog56]

Only one problem.

I ain't shooting bright florescent green bullets!   

And yes I DO know I can do them in other colors! 

[The_Shadow]

I was just looking over the MSDA of the NEON YELLOW
Item: PSS-1104
Description:
Florescent yellow

California Proposition 65:
This product contains a chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects, or other reproductive
harm.
Hazard determining components of labeling: TGIC
TGIC has been classified as "Possible Human Germ Cell Mutagen", and capable of causing permanent heritable damage in
reproductive cells on humans. Overexposure can result in toxic effects on liver and lungs.
Canadian DSL Inventory Status: All components of this product are listed on the Canadian DSL Inventory List
*Silica, amorphous, precipitated and gel (112926008 1-5%) MASS, OSHAWAC, TXAIR
*Barium sulfate (7727437 10-30%) MASS, OSHAWAC, PA, TXAIR
*Titanium dioxide (13463677 10-30%) MASS, OSHAWAC, PA, TXAIR

That's California for ya...they probably have the same warning for water!

Anyway, need to do me some more ZOMBIE rounds!