Gelatin test results

[5pins]

Test Gun: Sig P229, Beretta Nano.
Barrel length: 3.9, 3 inches.
Ammunition: Speer GDHP 9mm 115gr +P+.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Five shot velocity average: 1267, 1169fps
Gel Temperature 71 degrees.

I bought this ammo a few years ago from SG ammo, and while I don't remember the price it was much less than the $30 a box they are asking now. IIRC it was under $20 a box. Even though it's a +P+ it shoots very nicely, even the Nano. Yes, I used the Nano for some reason. I don't know why since I don't shoot it very well. Maybe I need to justify keeping it around.

I got an average velocity of 1267fps out of the P229 with a high of 1277fps and low of 1255fps. At 10 yards it shot very well.




In the Nano, I got an average velocity of 1169fps with a high of 1179fps and a low of 1157fps. At 10 yards the first shot went way to the left and remaining four just a little low.




The first round out the P229 into the clear ballistics gel had a velocity of 1262fps and penetrated to 10 inches with a recovered diameter of .75 inches and a retained weight of 113.2 grains. The second round hit the gel block at a velocity of 1288fps, penetrated to 9.5 inches with an expansion of .80 inches and a recovered weight of 113.8 grains.






When shot through heavy clothing the first round had a velocity of 1267fps and penetrated to 20.25 inches. The recovered bullet had a diameter of .53 inches and a retained weight of 114.5 grains. Round two penetrated a little less at 16.25 inches and expanded to .55 inches and weighed of 113.5 grains.




Out of the Nano, the first round penetrated to 13 inches with a velocity of1183fps and had a recovered diameter of .64 inches and weighed 114.7 grains. Number two had a velocity of 1158fps, penetrated to 12.75 inches and expanded to .63 inches and retained weight of 113.8 grains.

[5pins]

Test Gun: Sig P229, Beretta Nano.
Barrel length: 3.9, 3 inches.
Ammunition: Federal 9mm 115gr JHP +P+.(9bple)
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Five shot velocity average: 1234, 1188fps
Gel Temperature 71 degrees.


Many of you reading this will be familiar with this round. The 9bple as it is so often referred to. At this time the price is not much more than some FMJ practice ammo that's available. SG ammo probably has the best price right now at around $15 a box when it's in stock. It shot well out of both guns at 10 yards.


Out of the P229, it had an average velocity of 1234fps with a high of 1249fps and a low of 1223fps. 



In the Nano, I got an average velocity of 1188fps with a high of 1201 and a low of 1175fps.



Starting with the P229, the first round had a velocity of 1251fps and penetrated to 9.5 inches. The bullet expanded to .69 inches and had a recovered weight of 114.8 grains. Round two's velocity of 1244fps, penetrated to 10.25 inches, expanded to .66 inches, and a weight of 113.8 grains.



Through the clothed covered gel the first shot penetrated 13 inches and expanded to .61 inches at a velocity of 1217fps and had a recovered weight of 114.2 grains. Round two hit the gel block at 1257fps and penetrated to 17.75 inches. It expanded to .53 inches and had a recovered weight of 113.8 grains.



Out of the Beretta Nano, the first round had a velocity of 1183fps, penetrated to 11.75 inches and expanded to .63 inches with a recovered weight of 113.9 grains. Round two's velocity was 1158fps. The bullet penetrated to 11 inches with .65 inches of expansion and a recovered weight of113.9 grains. 

[Kenk]

Have always liked the .45 auto 230gr HST loads

[5pins]

Test Gun: Sig P229, Beretta Nano.
Barrel length: 3.9, 3 inches.
Ammunition: Winchester 147gr Silvertip JHP
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Five shot velocity average: 947, 914 fps
Gel Temperature 71 degrees.

I sure most people here are familiar with the Winchester Silvertip.  I've had this box for a while now and found it the other day and decided to give it a try. Out of the Sig, I got an average velocity of 947fps with a high of 972 and a low of 937fps.  Out of the Beretta Nano, I got an average velocity of 914fps with a high of 924fps and a low of 894fps.



Out of the Sig P229, the first round into the bare gel penetrated 17.5 inches and expanded to .56 inches. No velocity reading but the recovered weight was 149.4 grains. The second hit the block at 968fps and penetrated to 17 inches. It also expanded to .56 inches and had a recovered weight of 149.8 grains. Both bullets were recovered base forward even though there was no sign of tumbling.



When shot through clothing covered gel, the first round had a velocity of 930fps and penetrated to 19 inches. The recovered diameter was .44 inches and weighed 149.6 grains. Round two hit at a velocity of 936fps, penetrated to 19.5 inches with no expansion. It did show some deformation of the nose and the recovered weight was 149.5 grains. Both bullets stopped nose forward but the gel showed tumbling midway through the first block.





Out of the Beretta Nano, the first round penetrated to 18 inches with a recovered diameter of .55 inches and a weight of 149.6 grains. No velocity was recorded. Round two had a velocity of 888fps and penetrated to 18 inches also. It expanded to .53 inches and weighted 149.7 grains.

[Rojo27]

Thanks for sharing 5pins.  Always appreciate the data sets!!

[5pins]

Test Gun: Smith and Wesson model 65.

Barrel length: 3 inches.

Ammunition: Sig .357 Magnum 125gr V-Crown.

Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.

Distance: 10 feet.

Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.

Five shot velocity average: 1219fps.

Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

The Sig V-Crown continues to disappoint. I got a five-round average velocity of 1219fps with a high of 1238fps and a low of 1192fps.




The first round in the bare gel had a velocity of 1204fps and penetrated to 21.5 inches. Expansion at the point where the two pieces of jackets were sticking out was .58 inches but was only .42 inches at the body. Recovered weight was 124 grains.  Round two hit at 1218fps, penetrated to 20 inches and expanded to .54 inches and had a recovered weight of 124.6 grains.



In the heavy clothed gel, the first round had a velocity of 1292fps and penetrated to 23 inches. The recovered weight was 125 grains with no expansion. The second round also penetrated 23 inches. Had a recovered weight of 125 grains and no expansion. It had a velocity of 1201fps.

Both bullets were recovered base forward.

[Rojo27]

Seems like that's been the story with Sig V-Crown....
Does well in some calibers like 10mm but others like 357 mag & 9mm maybe even 45acp not well at all. 

[5pins]

Test Gun: Magnum Research Desert Eagle.

Barrel length: 6 inches.

Ammunition: Armscor .50 AE 300gr GDHP .

Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.

Distance: 10 feet.

Chronograph:

Velocity: 1250 fps (Per Manufacturer).

Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

I had some issues with the chronograph so I don't have any velocity on this round but the factory claims 1250fps so we will just go with that. As you could image, a 300gr bullet at 1250fps has a pretty stout recoil but the heft of the Desert Eagle at almost four and a half pounds makes it enjoyable.



Last time I checked game animals are not wearing clothing so I just did two rounds in bare gel. Both rounds penetrated 22 inches of gel. The first round had a recovered diameter of .82 inches and the second came in at .81 inches. The recovered weight came in at 300.3 and 300.4 grains.   

[Rojo27]

Outstanding expansion, outstanding penetration.......  Appears to be a very, very good voice for medium sized game (and bigger) hunting!!! 

Might take an impressive belt to carry a 4.37lbs pistol on your hip for a day of hunting.  Do they make slings for the desert eagle? 

[5pins]

Test Gun: Sig P229, S&W Shield.

Barrel length: 3.9 inches, 3.1 inches.

Ammunition: Winchester .40 S&W 165gr "T" Series

Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.

Distance: 10 feet.

Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.

Five shot velocity average: 1151, 1093fps

Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

This is one snappy round out of the M&P Shield but quite a bit more manageable out of the Sig. With the Sig P229, I got an average five-shot velocity of 1151fps with a high of 1156fps and a low of 1147fps.



In the Shield, the average was 1093fps with a high of 1105fps and a low of 1086fps.



Round one in the bare gel had a velocity of 1151fps and penetrated to 15 inches. It had a recovered .64 inches and a weight of 144.1 grains. Round two hit at 1158fps, penetrated to 14 inches, expanded to .63 inches, and a recovered weight of 145.4 grains.



Performance in Heavy clothing was very well with the first round having a velocity of 1138fps and expanded to .66 inches with a recovered weight of 150.6 grains. Round two had a velocity of 1141fps, expanded to .64 inches and a recovered weight of 153 grains. Both rounds penetrated to 15 inches.



Out of the Shield, the first round in the bare gel had a velocity of 1095fps and penetrated to 15 inches with an expansion of .66 inches. Recovered weight was 144.2 grains. Round two's velocity was 1097fps with a penetration 14.5 inches. Recovered diameter was .67 inches and a weight of 144.7 grains.

[Rojo27]

Hey 5pins,
Just a heads up, description names Federal 180gr HST as the test ammo;
the box pictured and the ammo is Winchester 165gr Ranger T.

[5pins]

Hey 5pins,
Just a heads up, description names Federal 180gr HST as the test ammo;
the box pictured and the ammo is Winchester 165gr Ranger T.

Thanks, it's fixed.

[5pins]

Test Gun: Sig P229, S&W Shield.

Barrel length: 3.9 inches, 3.1 inches.

Ammunition: Hornday .40 S&W 180gr XTP

Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.

Distance: 10 feet.

Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.

Five shot velocity average: 949, 890fps

Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

Out of the Sig P229, the five shot average velocity was 949fps with a high of 964fps and a low of 921fps.



From the Sheild, I got an average velocity of 890fps with a high of 901fps and a low of 869fps.



The first round from the Sig hit the bare gel at a velocity of 914fps and penetrated to 21 inches. The expansion was .51 inches and the recovered weight was 180.2 grains. Round two had a velocity of 931fps, expanded to .52 inches with a penetration of 20.25 inches and a recovered weight of 180.2 grains. 



In the heavy clothing covered gel, the first round had a velocity of 932fps and penetrated to 26 inches with no expansion. Recovered weight was 180.3 grains. Number two also had no expansion and penetrated to 27.25 inches. Velocity was 938 fps and weight was 180.1 grains.



From the M&P Sheild, round one had a velocity of 852fps and penetrated to 21.5 inches. Recovered weight was 180.1 grains and expansion was .50 inches. The second round had a velocity of 911fps and penetrated to 22.5 inches. Recovered weight was 180.2 grains and expansion was .51 inches.

[5pins]

Test Gun: Sig P229.

Barrel length: 3.9 inches.

Ammunition: Sig Sauer .357 Sig 125gr V-Crown

Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.

Distance: 10 feet.

Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.

Five shot velocity average: 1308fps

Gel Temperature 73 degrees.


With this round, I got an average 5 shot velocity of 1308fps with a high of 1319fps and a low of 1290fps.



The first round had an impact velocity of 1342fps and penetrated to 12 inches. Recovered diameter was .73 inches and weighted 124 grains. The second round also penetrated to 12 inches with an expansion of .71 inches. Recovered weight was 124.4 grains and the velocity was 1335fps.



In the heavy clothing covered gel, the chronograph didn't read the velocity. The penetration was 16.5 inches with an expansion of .59 and weight of 124.6 grains. Round two's velocity was 1316fps and penetrated to 19 inches. The weight of the projectile was 125.3 grains and diameter of .56 inches.

[The_Shadow]

I wonder what powder Sig is using in the 357Sig ammo?