Gelatin test results

[Intercooler]

     My Average was 1192 FPS out of my 4.75" Limited barrel versus his 1222 FPS average. I'm a little short of his results in a longer barrel. Given some of the XD numbers I have gotten while testing, I guess pistols act different all depending...
   

       I need to see if I still have this one and can get the XD numbers for it!

[Intercooler]

[Raggedyman]

[radiotom]

Sweet  video Raggedyman! I love AK gel tests and there is not enough! Any chance you could test some Federal Fusion for AK? 

EDIT: I'll send you a box if need be. I've shot some into wet phone books from about 15 feet and they had almost 100% weight retention and expanded perfectly to about .7 inches. They penetrated about 14 inches. I would love to see a real gel test of this stuff....nobody ever tests it. 

[Raggedyman]

I'd love to try it, do long as you understand that it may take me a long time to get to it. I PM'd you my address.

[Rojo27]

Thanks for sharing the 7.62x39 PDX1 test Raggedyman. 
Wound track was pretty decent, but a little disappointed with over penetration depth from the 16.25" barrel.  Winchester's whole "split core technology" was supposed to provide devastating energy dump THEN meet FBI penetration specs: 12" - 18".  An actual round capable of doing that from rifle (5.56, 7.62x39, 308) would be incredible in urban personal defense situation....  But that's what Winchester claims to have in this product. 
Ammo makers never embellish right?

Course I've bought several boxes of PDX1 in three rifle calibers listed; guess I'll keep it handy till something better comes along. 

[Raggedyman]

Take a look at my 123 gr SST test. I believe that is much better performance. Russian soft point also seems to do well in other people's tests.

[Rojo27]

SST (zmax) in 7.62x39 is a bit puzzling to me.  I'm definitely aware of your test which showed 16.7" penetration and it's similarity to Hornady's performance claim, so I got some it too. 
However, I've seen a couple of tests showing 25" to 29" with it too...  Maybe it's another ballistic gel/clear gel thing.  For hunting game (deer & hogs) SST (243, 308) has been one of most effective and favorite bullets I use.  Often times hits em like lighting bolt.

Similar concern with Russian soft point in 7.62x39:  Some tests show good results, some tests show the Ruski SP mimic fmj. 

I do have some 7.62x39 Yugo fmj in my SHTF stash but even that a bit too hairy for usual home defense scenarios in my opinion.

Thx again for sharing your ballistic gel results.

[Raggedyman]

I believe that there is a potential that the discrepancy between clear gel and gelatin influenced the difference between the Mrgunsngear and GY6vids tests versus my own test, but there was also a substantial difference in retained weight so it could simply be that the SST isn't all that consistent. It really requires more testing. It's also possible that the SST that Hornady uses in the Zmax line varies in some small way from that offered as a component.

I would expect pretty much any Russian ammo to be inconsistent. They don't even use the same projectile all the time. I will be testing Sellier&Bellot 123 gr SP soon. Maybe that will be a little better made.

I've got a couple cases of M67 myself. I think that's probably the best answer for SHTF, if you can't get some ammo that is verified to have the 8M3 or 8HP projectile.

[Pinsnscrews]

Have you done any of the Lehigh Defense Ammo?

[Intercooler]

[Pinsnscrews]

That was why I asked if Raggadyman had done any. I will post good news for 10mm guys in the reloading forum.

[Raggedyman]

I don't think I have but I'm starting to lose track.

ETA: sorry, I was on my phone earlier. I checked and I don't have a test up for Lehigh but it sounds familiar so maybe Intercooler or Shadow sent some?

[Raggedyman]

[Intercooler]

Pretty interesting results. Does speed kill?