what is the mosr devastating 10mm round

[Yondering]

Well those florescent-green 156 grain Lyman cast bullets are Devastators! 

Shadow, how fast have you pushed those Devastators? I don't have a mold for them, but do cast the Mihec 160gr hollow point, which is a different nose design but also very deep and wide. At 1650+ fps from my longslide G20, they are pretty devastating, and will vaporize a couple milk jugs of water, with only tiny lead fragments remaining.

[The_Shadow]

Yes at 1400 fps (9.6 gr Power Pistol / 5" 1006) there are many fragments with about 85-95 grains as a flattened pellet around 0.500" - 0.600", 3 gallon jugs water blasted with the 4th busted & stoppage inside.

[sqlbullet]

Excellent performance in it's own right.

And even if you paid for that lead, the cost/performance ratio is astronomically high.

Gotta luv cast HP bullets!!!

[gandog56]

Well those florescent-green 156 grain Lyman cast bullets are Devastators! 

They devastated my eyes, that's for sure!

[The_Shadow]

Well those florescent-green 156 grain Lyman cast bullets are Devastators! 

They devastated my eyes, that's for sure!

Gandog56, I did that as a rebuttal to Hornady not making any 10mm Zombie Max available when they put out their line-up.  It was nothing more than painting them prior to sizing and lubing them.  The red lube looks like tainted blood....


I went as far as posting those pictures on their FaceBook page with my remarks for not making stuff for us 10mm guys and gals.

[Raggedyman]

"Devastating" is not a term that I would apply to any pistol cartridge.

That said, the 135 gr loads created significant disruption, despite having woefully inadequate penetration.

Pistols are not powerful, they're portable.

And THIS is what I would call "devastating":


http://www.hornadyle.com/products/rifle-ammunition/308-win-tap/155-gr-a-max-tap-precision

[Raggedyman]

I prefer a lighter faster bullet for maximum tissue damage. Nosler 135gr at 1520 fps or Nosler 150 gr at 1420 fps. Kinda goes back to the proven - 357 mag 125gr HP load , very effective.


Sean

A .355" projectile has a higher sectional density than a .400" bullet of similar weight. That's why 125 gr .357 mag penetrates adequately and 155 gr 10mm typically does not.

[Raggedyman]

Well those florescent-green 156 grain Lyman cast bullets are Devastators! 

I think I'll be testing one of those 156 gr Lymans this Monday. I'm really interested in seeing what it does but I expect quick, aggressive expansion, moderate fragmentation and limited penetration. Then again, if it frags early, leaving a mostly round core, it might go pretty deep.


OP, I forgot to mention that my favorite defense loads that I've seen so far are 165 gr Gold Dots or 180 gr Gold Dot, XTP, or HST. If deeper penetration is required, the 200 gr XTP offers a nice compromise between penetration and expansion when loaded to about 1,200 fps or so.

[gandog56]

Well those florescent-green 156 grain Lyman cast bullets are Devastators! 

They devastated my eyes, that's for sure!

Gandog56, I did that as a rebuttal to Hornady not making any 10mm Zombie Max available when they put out their line-up.  It was nothing more than painting them prior to sizing and lubing them.  The red lube looks like tainted blood....


I went as far as posting those pictures on their FaceBook page with my remarks for not making stuff for us 10mm guys and gals.

Aww lighten up. I was just funning them.

[The_Shadow]

No offense taken, just explaining how they came to be for those that didn't know...With the rest of that paint, I painted some of my garden tools' handles makes them easy to find!   

[krafcheck]

I wrestled with the idea of calling the round "devastating" since it us a hand fun (get it?).  But I figured it would spur a conversation of past memories of wow that was awesome.  I currently carry under woods 180's until I have shot the enough rounds of various types to find one that I feel the most comfortable with and can be accurate the most.  Unless something happens during my next range time I may be back to carrying hornadys 155gr. Xtp's.  I ran out out of time last time at the range to test what I have.  Used to shoot a lot but the last three years I may go once or twice a year.  I guess it comes in cycles.

If recoil was the best indication of devastation Hornady 155 would not be king.  Its not 600ft pounds but so far I shoot the best with it and felt recoil is more than what my 40 produces.

155 did punish my old computer monitor.  My boys were impressed.  When I dropped it off at the annual recycle day for monitors nobody even looked at me weird.  I guess I wasn't the first.

[Raggedyman]

In my tests, neither the 155 gr Gold Dot or XTP penetrated deeply enough for defense. In 10mm, I would recommend 165 gr or heavier JHP.

[krafcheck]

I've seen test on YouTube and the 165 and 200's are up next for my test.  But if I can't hit anything fast and accurate the 155's have the job.  Until I can stock up on heavier and shoot them a lot. Plan on taking family out tomorrow morning so I should have a designated round. Got to get the milk jugs ready. Boys love that.

[sgtbones]

In my G20 I use Underwood 180 gr Gold Dots  DE load 1240 fps in the  winter . The G29 165 gr Underwood Gold Dots.

[P33v3]

In my G20 I use Underwood 180 gr Gold Dots  DE load 1240 fps in the  winter . The G29 165 gr Underwood Gold Dots.

Those are both good choices. I have always believed that the 10mm should be paired with 180gr and 200gr rounds. 165gr is a good choice for the shorter G29 as it gives it just a little more zip to aid expansion.