Whats a good paper punching bullet to reload?

Started by BillC, September 14 2013 05:17:36 AM MDT

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BillC

New to reloading, so far I have only reloaded 44 mag using Hornady 240 Gr XTP's. I have been putting together my reloading outfit and right now using a Lee hand press and Lee Deluxe dies. I have 2 reloading manuals, Hornady's 9th edition and Lee's Modern Reloading manual. I have managed to buy primers and some different powders over the past few months (Unique, H110, Win 296, Alliant 2400 and Bullseye) the only brass I have is once fired from my Glock 20 and the majority has bulges, so I havent decided if I should just buy new brass or buy a die that will reform the bulges. The LGS's I have seen only a limited selection of bullets usually XTP's, but I see bullets on Gunbroker by Montana Gold and XTREME and thinking maybe this is the way I should go for my desire to punch paper and get more shooting time with the 10mm without having to buy premium bullets. I plan on using the Unique and probably 180 Grain jacketed bullets and following the load data in the Lee book. Any suggestions as far as what bullet manufacture I should go with or stay away from? And where online is a good place to order? Thanks

Steve4102

Precision Delta .
http://www.precisiondelta.com/product.php?indx=5

Zero Brand
http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant.mvc

Toss the Lee Data.  It is nothing but an outdated copy of the free powder manufacturer's data.

Powder Valley
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

mlk3454

I have shot Xtreme bullets for a couple years now in 40/10mm (all 180gr) with no issues from mild to wild. They are the cheapest I usually find for a jacketed bullet and punch paper perfectly fine.

For the bulged cases I would most likely recommend tossing them as you don't want a kaboom with a "reformed" case. If you shoot hotter rounds and bulge most cases you may want to look at getting an aftermarket barrel with better support so you don't waste as much brass while also giving you some added security.

I love to use Power Pistol for a powder as its cheap and burns fairly clean. That powder seems to be more available around me in the bigger tubs than the more popular Blue Dot and Long Shot.

It doesn't hurt to take a look at the loading data from the powder company you choose to use. Most 10mm stuff you will find is conservative as an FYI but it pays to start low and slowly work loads up.

The_Shadow

You maybe interested in some of the plated bullets for paper punching.  Berry's, Rainer and Rocky Mountain Reloading are a few.  Just understand that these need some special handling for the most part.  You will need to expand the casing enough to accept the bullet (this is so the case mouth doesn't snag the fragile plating. You will need to fully seat them without any crimp being applied, this also keeps from cutting through the plating.  Then after the bullet is seat to proper depth you will lightly taper crimp to finish as not to cut the plating.
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gandog56

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I like my Precision Bullets 185 grain moly coated RFN's.
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

BillC

Thanks for all the help! I've taken some notes and bookmarked a few places for bullets.

RMM

What gun are you loading for?  I've been happy with the Black Bullets International 165 gr. so far for "cheaper" plinking loads.  $100/1000 shipped, less if you buy a case.  The PowerBond plated bullets are also awesome (it's what RMR usually sells even though they don't tell you that).  But if you can get FMJ for the same price or less I would go that route. 
Richard - G20SF

BillC

Quote from: RMM on September 17 2013 08:07:43 PM MDT
What gun are you loading for?  I've been happy with the Black Bullets International 165 gr. so far for "cheaper" plinking loads.  $100/1000 shipped, less if you buy a case.  The PowerBond plated bullets are also awesome (it's what RMR usually sells even though they don't tell you that).  But if you can get FMJ for the same price or less I would go that route.

Glock 20SF

RMM

I also have a G20SF.  With the factory barrel I cannot use the Lee FCD or else the bullet ends up slightly undersized and leads the factory barrel.  Mine are sized .400, I think that next time I'll get them sized .401 and try that. 
Richard - G20SF

gandog56

Quote from: RMM on September 17 2013 08:07:43 PM MDT
What gun are you loading for?  I've been happy with the Black Bullets International 165 gr. so far for "cheaper" plinking loads.  $100/1000 shipped, less if you buy a case.  The PowerBond plated bullets are also awesome (it's what RMR usually sells even though they don't tell you that).  But if you can get FMJ for the same price or less I would go that route.

I like heavier bullets. The 185 grain Precision Bullets I reload are only $108/1000 shipped.
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

Caneman

for 10mm paper punching economy bullets it is hard to beat 200gr lead

MikeS.

For lead I really like Missouri Bullet Co. I've been shooting their 180g in myColt and MT.

gandog56

Quote from: Caneman on September 19 2013 11:40:05 AM MDT
for 10mm paper punching economy bullets it is hard to beat 200gr lead

Ehhh, I tried those and got nowhere NEAR the accuracy of my 185 grain boolets.
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

The_Shadow

Quote from: BillC on September 17 2013 10:15:38 PM MDT
Glock 20SF

I take that you are using the factory barrel, this is why I suggested the plated bullets.  However if you can get cast bullets sized to 0.4015" or 0.4020" they should work well.  Aftermarket barrels are good to go with all bullet types.

With cast bullets and plated you will want to have a slight case mouth expansion (belling or flaring), also you need to seat bullets without any crimp being applied, then in a separate step crimp only enough to remove the case mouth belling or flaring.

I also do not use the LEE FCD to final crimp, it tends to squeeze the casing too tight causing the bullet to squeeze down in size.  BEST use for LEE FCD is as a "Pass-Thru-Sizer Die" that irons out case expansion top to bottom that some regular dies can't reach.
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