What Barrel?

Started by jerrydm60, June 30 2012 05:24:05 PM MDT

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jerrydm60

Looking to get anew barrel for my 29 to shoot lead, what is a good one to get?  Thanks   Jerry ;)

DM1906

I like LWD (Lone Wolf).  Some don't.  Bar-Sto is very good, but not as much better as the price indicates.  KKM is somewhere in between, and no better than LWD, in my opinion.  There are others, and none of them bad, just good and gooder, expensive and less expensive.  None should disappoint.  Send them back if they do.
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The_Shadow

jerrydm60, you can shoot lead alloy from you factory barrel.  The things to do is inspect the bore for leading issues and look at the end of the chamber for build up that may hamper full battery lock ups.

Other than that I also have the Storm Lake 10mm barrel with conventional rifling, it has worked well also.  :D
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alwaysshootin

Quote from: jerrydm60 on June 30 2012 05:24:05 PM MDT
Looking to get anew barrel for my 29 to shoot lead, what is a good one to get?  Thanks   Jerry ;)

Jerry, have you attempted shooting lead out of your factory barrel. Reason I ask, is I've had way more Glock factory barrels that will shoot lead just fine, compared to those that won't.

   Will be honest with you, of two 29's, only one did not lead up, and of the three G20's I've had, only the last one a 3rd Gen will shoot lead just fine. Not to mention, my first two G20's, a 1.5 Gen, and a 3rd Gen SF model, both bulged brass terribly.

   For shooting lead out of Glocks where the factory barrel does not like lead, my money goes to Lone Wolf. Have purchased three to date, all functioned 100%, and all were more accurate then I can shoot. Hope this helps!

sqlbullet

As others have said you can shoot lead from a factory barrel, but exercise care.

Also, watch the fit.  I would NOT shoot commercial cast .401" rock hard lead and expect good results.  But, bullets cast from wheel weights, air cooled with a BHN of 10-12 that are sized .402" will probably work just fine.  You may want a slightly harder alloy for absolute top end loads, which you can acheive by mixing 50/50 with linotype if available, or by adding 1-2% additional tin if you don't have linotype.

Good luck.

Vice

Quote from: sqlbullet on July 01 2012 02:53:47 PM MDT
As others have said you can shoot lead from a factory barrel, but exercise care.

Also, watch the fit.  I would NOT shoot commercial cast .401" rock hard lead and expect good results.


I beg to differ with you sir. :)

I shoot .401 180gr bullets by MasterCraft Bullets all day long in any and all of my shooter 10MMs without lead fouling or build up of any kind with exception of the Glock 20, I never go over 150 rounds for caution sake. And there is some lead flaking in the factory Glock barrel.
The BHN of the MasterCraft Bullets are 16-18 and they use Magma lube.

One of my Brens is unfired, one is a 45.

My shooters consists of:

2- 5" Bren Tens
1- 4" Bren Ten
SW 1026
SW 610 Classic
Colt Delta Elite
Colt Ultra Ten
Glock 20
EAA Elite Match

Looks like a pretty good sampling of guns - at least for that Bullet Company



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alwaysshootin

Quote from: Vice on July 01 2012 06:06:08 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on July 01 2012 02:53:47 PM MDT
As others have said you can shoot lead from a factory barrel, but exercise care.

Also, watch the fit.  I would NOT shoot commercial cast .401" rock hard lead and expect good results.


I beg to differ with you sir. :)

I shoot .401 180gr bullets by MasterCraft Bullets all day long in any and all of my shooter 10MMs without lead fouling or build up of any kind with exception of the Glock 20, I never go over 150 rounds for caution sake. And there is some lead flaking in the factory Glock barrel.
The BHN of the MasterCraft Bullets are 16-18 and they use Magma lube.

One of my Brens is unfired, one is a 45.

My shooters consists of:

2- 5" Bren Tens
1- 4" Bren Ten
SW 1026
SW 610 Classic
Colt Delta Elite
Colt Ultra Ten
Glock 20
EAA Elite Match

Looks like a pretty good sampling of guns - at least for that Bullet Company

  I still believe it comes down to the specific firearm, and barrel, when it comes to Glocks. I've had every 9MM in Glocks offerings, and none were problematic with shooting lead. Multiple 45's, again, not a problem.  40's have been 50%, and only 40% success, with 10MM, where shooting lead, wasn't a problem. .401, or .402 mattered not. I believe it had more to do with the finish polish of the barrel, as to whether, or not, shooting lead was a problem. At least that has been my experience.

sqlbullet

Quote from: alwaysshootin on July 01 2012 06:15:59 PM MDT
  I still believe it comes down to the specific firearm, and barrel

This.

But lots of folks get scared off when told they need to slug the barrel and match the slug to that diameter +.001" if they want to be assured of a good experience with lead.  So, I have just defaulted to telling folks with non-standard rifling to start .002" over nominal bore.  YMMV.


loadedround

Before replacing barrels, try some  Lasercast bullets from Oregon Trail (the manufacturer). These cast bullets seem to be the hardest cast bullets on the market and I've been pushing them hard with healthy doses of Blue Dot. MidwayUSA sells Lasercast bullets or you can order them directly from Oregon Trail. Call them and they will send you a pk/5 free sample to try. I would suspect you will be quite happy with the results.

jerrydm60

Thanks to everyone for the help, iv been looking at a LW barrel on fleabay and i have used OT lead bullets for my 45s. I will keep you posted on the outcome,  Jerry :) :)

REDLINE

I would recommend Storm Lake.  Though others would probably get you by just fine.
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alwaysshootin

Quote from: REDLINE on July 02 2012 08:43:10 PM MDT
I would recommend Storm Lake.  Though others would probably get you by just fine.

Storm Lake makes a fine barrel! Have owned a couple myself. I am pretty sure KKM makes a great barrel also. What it comes down to, is they all make decent, to good. barrels, and probably, most, if not all, will out shoot our abilities.

   The big point, that I don't believe has been brought up, is the fact of why, most of us, look to purchase an aftermarket barrel. If it's you want to shoot lead, why is it you want to shoot lead? If like me, it's to be able to shoot more, less expensively, why would you pay any more, than you have to, for a barrel, to shoot lead. I did not notice any accuracy gain with the three different manufactures barrels I've owned. Others may have had different experiences. I do, however, see one distinct advantage in buying a KKM barrel. They make a conversion barrel for both the G21, and G30, to shoot the 10MM! :P

REDLINE

Quote from: alwaysshootin on July 02 2012 09:15:09 PM MDT
...why, most of us, look to purchase an aftermarket barrel.

For me it is about going to a 6.02" version to add velocity in 10mm.
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Grizzz

Quote from: REDLINE on July 04 2012 01:25:27 PM MDT
Quote from: alwaysshootin on July 02 2012 09:15:09 PM MDT
...why, most of us, look to purchase an aftermarket barrel.

For me it is about going to a 6.02" version to add velocity in 10mm.
My thoughts exactly  ;D
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alwaysshootin

Quote from: REDLINE on July 04 2012 01:25:27 PM MDT
Quote from: alwaysshootin on July 02 2012 09:15:09 PM MDT
...why, most of us, look to purchase an aftermarket barrel.

For me it is about going to a 6.02" version to add velocity in 10mm.

  Curious what kind of velocity increase you've experienced in the 6" over the factory barrel? Only asking, because when I had access to a chronograph, I never compared the two length barrels myself. To be honest, the main reason I first purchased the 6", was because Ohio has mandate of not less than 5 inches on barrel length. When I got the 6", Lone Wolf did not make the tactical length, which is what I have now. Bought it to make the length needed, and mostly, to shoot lead, without concern of leading.