Witness problems

[pacapcop]

Castrate away i say lol.Midway USA has a vast selection.I see the .40 cal now as "Coming Soon".Maybe the 10 compact is last on the list,i don't know.Im perparing to send down to EAA the Match for D/A.Somethings myself i prefere not to mess with.But thanks.I hate cock and locked myself,esp in a shoulder rig.

[Patriot]

Checked Mec-Gar website. No 10mm Witness magazines for sale.

http://www.mec-gar.com/Magazines/Witness

I checked the Midway website, it says the new K10 mags are produced by EAA. 

"This replacement magazine is a factory original from EAA. Factory replacement parts are manufactured to the exact same specifications and tolerances and use the same manufacturing materials as the original parts which guarantees excellent fit and reliable operation."

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/416807/eaa-magazine-witness-10mm-auto-15-round-steel-blue

Why do people keep saying the K10 mags are from Mec-Gar?

[Intercooler]

I thought EAA was still doing the send us your red follower mags and we will exchange them for the blacks deal? Has anyone checked?

I will also take any red follower magazines that are causing fits 

[pacapcop]

Hennings has the 10mm Mec-Gar advertised.They dont have a pic but hennings sells the Mec Gar 10mm mag.EAA supplies mags only.Mec Gar site sells Witness/Tanfoglio Mags.They appear to be same as ones sold on Midway.Is there wording in advertisment from Midway thats not correct?

[GoldBead]

Intercooler! Hi! Pulled this off of Brian Enos Forum:

"Mec-Gar had Tangfolio's mag contract in the late 90's. Tangfolio switched company's(don't know the name) and they produced the Red Follower mags. Mec-Gar got the contract back in early 2011.

The owner of EAA has a good bit of old inventory of the Red follower mags in stock. So every time you call and order mags and you don't ask for the new Mec-Gar K10 mag they will send you the OLD DISCONTINUED RED FOLLOWER MAGS. It's not the guys fault who answers the phone, there are told by the owner to send (and lower his inventory) RED FOLLOWER MAGS.

Pack up your red mags with your reciept and mail back to EAA and tell them you want to swap for the new K10 mag It holds 14rds only. EAA never changed their description of the mag on their !@##ty web page.

The new K10's run flawlessly. 14rds that run or 15rds that don't!!!!!! Changing to Henning base pads depending on which you choose will give you 15 to 20rds. H500(shortest) with factory spring & follower will give you 15+1. H580 +Hennings Gram follower and 10 coil spring might go 18(haven't tried this combo yet) but in my K38 mag it gives 21+1 of 38Super.



Bottom line, lose the red follower mags and switch to K10's and you will have a gun that shoots.

K10=10mm
K40=.40
k38= any 38Super including Super/Comp. 9x23
K9 = 9mm

The new K Series are large frame mags only. If used in a compact gun they will work but just stick out the bottom, but no more than if you had one of Hennings pads on.

Rumor is (So don't hold me to Accuracy) that the owner of Tanfoglio and the owner of Mec-Gar were having dinner together and got into a pissing contest that got personal. Tanfoglio refused to do business with Mec-Gar for a few years. When Tanfoglio's rep started to go south, Tanfoglio kissed the ring and made up.

In return, Mec-Gar went all out on both the 38 Super/9mm magazines and the 10mm because of complaints and did a smash up job on the new mags. By the way, the magazine in the video you posted is a Mec-Gar!

[sqlbullet]

Don't have them for my Witness, but I have one for my Para P-16.  Runs like a top.

[pacapcop]

I got a little funny to tell ya's.I e-mailed EAA and asked if they will have the Compact 10mm 12 round magazine without the red follower like other calibers that are available.

Return E-Mail,

Sir,
What is the serial number on the gun?

Told ya i had a funny.

But in conclusion"At this time we only have red followers".

[Patriot]

I really wish Tanfoglio would find another importer. EAA just isn't cutting it. Whoever responds to these emails needs a new job.

[Intercooler]

The ones one Henning's site aren't K10?

http://henningshootsguns.com/shop/magazines.html

[Intercooler]

Maybe e-mail these guys and see:

http://www.ammoclip.com/E/eaa_witness_10mm.htm

[Patriot]

Wish I could solve this mystery.

Mec-Gar isn't selling the K10's on their website. They won't admit to producing them in emails I sent them.

Midway shows a picture of a mag with black follower, but says its a 15 round capacity and is a "factory original" from EAA. (I ordered one and it holds 14, it's stamped K10, but says "Tanfoglio, Italy" on the base pad)

Hennings says their mags are Mec-Gar K10, but show a picture of a standard EAA mag with red follower.

[pacapcop]

I agree Grim,it's turning into a production.Henning needs to update photo of the Mec-Gar K10.Midway im guessing has wording in advertisement all wrong,Mec-gar can not give a straight answer or a return e-mail's from my attempts,and not to be left out,EAA being itself. 

[pacapcop]

Intercooler,

Hennings photo of Mag described as K10 is not correct.My Fullsize K10 is clearly marked on mag from Midway and more of a non glossy finish and no Red Follower.
Here lies the problem i think.Mec Gar web site displays their mags with side that does not indicate K10 or whatever caliber code it happens to be.On the midway site,the Mags clearly display K10 etc etc.

[Patriot]

Intercooler,

Hennings photo of Mag described as K10 is not correct.My Fullsize K10 is clearly marked on mag from Midway and more of a non glossy finish and no Red Follower.

Does yours say "Tanfoglio, Italy" on the base pad? My K10 does. I'm wondering if someone at Midway put my K10 together and mixed up the parts with a regular EAA mag. Because this thing jams my gun worse then any mag I ever had.

[pacapcop]

Grim,see above on mag ID issue.Second,most post of the K10's are positive in regards to feeding issues due to inferior mags with red followers of past.Not all,but a vast majority who use newer mags are reporting much sucess.Your pistols obviously are not mag related.Did you send them back?My K10's do say "Tanfolglio,Italy"on the base pad.