Witness problems

Patriot · August 28 2012 12:42:07 PM MDT

Quote from: pacapcop on August 28 2012 12:08:23 PM MDT
Intercooler,

Hennings photo of Mag described as K10 is not correct.My Fullsize K10 is clearly marked on mag from Midway and more of a non glossy finish and no Red Follower.
Here lies the problem i think.Mec Gar web site displays their mags with side that does not indicate K10 or whatever caliber code it happens to be.On the midway site,the Mags clearly display K10 etc etc.

On Mec-Gar's website the mags are listed by caliber. http://www.mec-gar.com/Magazines/Witness

No 10mm's for Witness pistols are offered.

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pacapcop · August 28 2012 05:57:21 PM MDT

Ok,What i hold in my hand is the same as advertised, Mec-Gar.Same mag,same as advertised,same appearance.I have there 10mm fullsize.Nothing diff as it appears to me.Theres defiancies in advertisment to the best of my knowledge.Regardless of Midway or Mec-gar's web site,they are the same in appearance.

pacapcop · August 29 2012 06:40:23 AM MDT

I recieved a return e-mail from EAA.The new mags are in FACT,made by Mec-Gar for Tanfoglio.Mystery solved.

mg5000 · January 24 2013 05:27:12 PM MST

I ordered a blued slide for my Witness off of EAA's website thinking it would be the better squared blued slide. Well, to my surprise when I got it, it is the same crappy rounded slide as the wonder-finish slide that is known for cracking issues. Does anybody know if these blued rounded slides are just as bad as the wonderfinish rounded slides as far as cracking??

pacapcop · January 24 2013 05:45:19 PM MST

Send it back.If the presentation of the slide you bought appeared to be the squared off one,make note of that and request the slab style.I think you will be fine.

mg5000 · January 24 2013 06:11:46 PM MST

I did some research into this and I think the only way to get a squared slide is if you get the long slide conversion which is a lot more. I think as far as the 4.5 barrels go, you can only get a rounded slide. If you want a squared slide, it has to be one of the match squared slides that are 4.75 barrels....

sqlbullet · January 25 2013 07:31:53 AM MST

I am pretty sure it isn't all rounded slides that crack. I read an article several years back right after EAA started actually doing warranty repair on them rather than blaming bad ammo. It said that Tanfoglio had found a lot of slides that were not correctly heat treated. Specifically, they were not annealed after the first heat and quench. As a result they were overly brittle, which lead to the cracking.

I would shoot it and see. EAA has been standing behind them, so if it cracks you have recourse.

pacapcop · January 25 2013 07:04:54 PM MST

Like the old saying."If it's not broke,don't try to fix it".

pacapcop · February 03 2013 01:09:53 PM MST

It appears i been seeing the base model Witness with the squared off slides for sale.These are NIB.Anyone else starting to see that trend.DA/SA.

sqlbullet · February 04 2013 08:39:41 AM MST

I haven't really been watching. One thing to be careful of is lots of guys on Gunbroker just use a stock photo they downloaded years ago. If it says NIB, I would contact the seller to verify the photo is of the gun up for sale.

pacapcop · February 04 2013 09:28:37 AM MST

Thanks.Just to clarify,the photos im seeing are the SA/DA non rubber grips.The grips are like the new plastic Match grips and the old slide.But yes,i will inquire.Armslist has one up for sale,10 round DA/SA.450.00 new

sqlbullet · February 05 2013 08:31:54 AM MST

You appear to be correct:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327844546

This gun has forward serrations and a rail as well as the new plastic grips. All details that are well after the rounded slide. Plus, it is clearly new in box and not stock photos.

Makes me happy. In addition to issues with some heat treat lots, I thought the rounded ones were ugly. And a few minutes on the mill and I could get rid of that rail, turn the front serrations into browning cuts and shorten the dust cover to match and it would be an elegant gun again ${$default_tongue_smiley}$

Bret · February 08 2013 10:31:39 AM MST

New member here. This is my first post.

I recently receive a new Witness 10mm that I purchased from Budsgunshop. It took a month to arrive, but it's finally in its new home.

As you can see, it has the heavier slide. The magazine that came with it is marked K10 and has a black follower. I've installed a Henning guiderod and 20Lb recoil spring.

Now I just have to work this new Starline brass in to complete cartridges.

The_Shadow · February 08 2013 11:50:28 AM MST

Welcome to the forum Bret. Nice Witness 10mm, congrats! Somebody's going to be a little busy doing some loading I see! ${$default_grin_smiley}$

That thing does need to eat! ${$default_cool_smiley}$

sqlbullet · February 08 2013 03:36:42 PM MST

Looks great Bret. I like both my EAA products very, very much.