Favorite Hunting/Woods Defense 10mm Bullet Poll -

Started by REDLINE, June 27 2012 12:19:07 AM MDT

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REDLINE

Yes, I also believe that's a bit much for one poll.  :D  But I'm feeling lazy toward a 3rd separate poll.  Anyways, it is what it is, LOL.  In the end I decided to add a separate bullet type section for Woods Defense.  For hunting, in regard to bullet types, just vote as you see fit between both game animal sizes (being that we can all vote a total of 6 times, two votes could be used for that section).

The idea behind this poll is what you like loaded in your 10mm for Hunting and/or Woods Defense, as the individual prefers to vote.  Every voter is allowed up to 6 total votes.  No single item can be voted for more than once.  Votes by each individual can be adjusted for future time accuracy as your mind may change over time, and this poll has no expiration date.

Sorry if I missed a bullet type or weight you prefer.  Certainly feel free to note them below in a post.

Even with this poll being overly extensive for a single poll I think it will work out fairly well.  Kind of multiple polls all rolled into one, but also only having to look in one place for all of it. :o
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

sqlbullet

I am pretty straightforward.

I load this



205 gr WFN, cast of Isotope lead (95/2/3 Pb/Sn/Sb) water dropped and lubed with felix lube.  It goes in new Starline brass over 12.5 grains of AA#9 with a CCI 300 primer.  This should be good for 1200 fps.  I bought a Chrony a few weekends ago and hope to test that soon.

I have purchased some longshot, and will be working on getting this bullet to 1300+ fps out of my 5" 1911 and 4.75" Witness Match.

I don't hunt.  I do hike and camp some in the Rockies.  This is my last ditch bear repellant.

The_Shadow

I mostly carry the Hornady 200XTP's...however these work well too...
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Taterhead

I like a 200 gr WFNGC hardcast for walking around in the Idaho wilderness near where I live - handloaded to a little over 1200 fps from my G20. 200 grain XTPs are a distant second with 180 grain XTPs as a good do-it-all offering.

cwlongshot

Quote from: Taterhead on June 29 2012 11:30:12 PM MDT
I like a 200 gr WFNGC hardcast for walking around in the Idaho wilderness near where I live - handloaded to a little over 1200 fps from my G20. 200 grain XTPs are a distant second with 180 grain XTPs as a good do-it-all offering.
Tater,
Why the dislike of the 200 XTP?

I see your in Idaho so bears are a likely sighting. I know a hard cast will out penetrate the XTP 10 times outta 9 but is that your only reason?

I use allot of WFN hard cast slugs from my 45 Colt in 300&325 gr. but haven't found one for the 10mm that looks to reliably feed.

CW
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Taterhead

Quote from: cwlongshot on July 02 2012 05:53:32 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on June 29 2012 11:30:12 PM MDT
I like a 200 gr WFNGC hardcast for walking around in the Idaho wilderness near where I live - handloaded to a little over 1200 fps from my G20. 200 grain XTPs are a distant second with 180 grain XTPs as a good do-it-all offering.
Tater,
Why the dislike of the 200 XTP?

I see your in Idaho so bears are a likely sighting. I know a hard cast will out penetrate the XTP 10 times outta 9 but is that your only reason?

I use allot of WFN hard cast slugs from my 45 Colt in 300&325 gr. but haven't found one for the 10mm that looks to reliably feed.

CW

Hi CW,

I do not dislike the XTPs. I actually like them. But I really like what I see when I shoot stuff with the wide flat nosed hardcast bullets. They put a big deep hole in things. The XTPs work well too, and they usually mushroom.  After shooting various odds and ends side-by-side, the WFNGC seems to have a nastier impact plus penetration that doesn't stop.

Feeding can certainly be an issue in an autoloader with that wide flat nose. I have not had a single issue though in my G20 chamber.

cwlongshot

Quote from: Taterhead on July 02 2012 10:19:24 PM MDT
Quote from: cwlongshot on July 02 2012 05:53:32 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on June 29 2012 11:30:12 PM MDT
I like a 200 gr WFNGC hardcast for walking around in the Idaho wilderness near where I live - handloaded to a little over 1200 fps from my G20. 200 grain XTPs are a distant second with 180 grain XTPs as a good do-it-all offering.
Tater,
Why the dislike of the 200 XTP?

I see your in Idaho so bears are a likely sighting. I know a hard cast will out penetrate the XTP 10 times outta 9 but is that your only reason?

I use allot of WFN hard cast slugs from my 45 Colt in 300&325 gr. but haven't found one for the 10mm that looks to reliably feed.

CW

Hi CW,

I do not dislike the XTPs. I actually like them. But I really like what I see when I shoot stuff with the wide flat nosed hardcast bullets. They put a big deep hole in things. The XTPs work well too, and they usually mushroom.  After shooting various odds and ends side-by-side, the WFNGC seems to have a nastier impact plus penetration that doesn't stop.

Feeding can certainly be an issue in an autoloader with that wide flat nose. I have not had a single issue though in my G20 chamber.

That's good to hear!! As I said I also like a WFN but was worried about reliable feeding. I have not had the G20 that long and only got the KKM barrel in May. I would like to try some WFN bullets.
Do you cast your own? If so what mold? If buying them, what are you using?

Thanks for the comments!

CW
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sqlbullet

It sounds like a custom mold from Mountain Molds.

Taterhead

Quote from: cwlongshot on July 03 2012 05:53:50 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on July 02 2012 10:19:24 PM MDT
Quote from: cwlongshot on July 02 2012 05:53:32 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on June 29 2012 11:30:12 PM MDT
I like a 200 gr WFNGC hardcast for walking around in the Idaho wilderness near where I live - handloaded to a little over 1200 fps from my G20. 200 grain XTPs are a distant second with 180 grain XTPs as a good do-it-all offering.
Tater,
Why the dislike of the 200 XTP?

I see your in Idaho so bears are a likely sighting. I know a hard cast will out penetrate the XTP 10 times outta 9 but is that your only reason?

I use allot of WFN hard cast slugs from my 45 Colt in 300&325 gr. but haven't found one for the 10mm that looks to reliably feed.

CW

Hi CW,

I do not dislike the XTPs. I actually like them. But I really like what I see when I shoot stuff with the wide flat nosed hardcast bullets. They put a big deep hole in things. The XTPs work well too, and they usually mushroom.  After shooting various odds and ends side-by-side, the WFNGC seems to have a nastier impact plus penetration that doesn't stop.

Feeding can certainly be an issue in an autoloader with that wide flat nose. I have not had a single issue though in my G20 chamber.

That's good to hear!! As I said I also like a WFN but was worried about reliable feeding. I have not had the G20 that long and only got the KKM barrel in May. I would like to try some WFN bullets.
Do you cast your own? If so what mold? If buying them, what are you using?

Thanks for the comments!

CW

I have been loading the Double Tap 200 gr WFNGC component. Some folks have reported feeding issues in KKM barrels with that profile. I have considered switching to the Beartooth bullut because it is said to be of better quality.  Mike McNett said in an email to me that the DT bullet is close to identical to the Beartooth. It has been easier to order through DT so I have not made the switch.

nickE10mm

Quote

Hi CW,

I do not dislike the XTPs. I actually like them. But I really like what I see when I shoot stuff with the wide flat nosed hardcast bullets. They put a big deep hole in things. The XTPs work well too, and they usually mushroom.  After shooting various odds and ends side-by-side, the WFNGC seems to have a nastier impact plus penetration that doesn't stop.

Feeding can certainly be an issue in an autoloader with that wide flat nose. I have not had a single issue though in my G20 chamber.

This.

cwlongshot

Quote from: Taterhead on July 03 2012 07:23:37 PM MDT
Quote from: cwlongshot on July 03 2012 05:53:50 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on July 02 2012 10:19:24 PM MDT
Quote from: cwlongshot on July 02 2012 05:53:32 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on June 29 2012 11:30:12 PM MDT
I like a 200 gr WFNGC hardcast for walking around in the Idaho wilderness near where I live - handloaded to a little over 1200 fps from my G20. 200 grain XTPs are a distant second with 180 grain XTPs as a good do-it-all offering.
Tater,
Why the dislike of the 200 XTP?

I see your in Idaho so bears are a likely sighting. I know a hard cast will out penetrate the XTP 10 times outta 9 but is that your only reason?

I use allot of WFN hard cast slugs from my 45 Colt in 300&325 gr. but haven't found one for the 10mm that looks to reliably feed.

CW

Hi CW,

I do not dislike the XTPs. I actually like them. But I really like what I see when I shoot stuff with the wide flat nosed hardcast bullets. They put a big deep hole in things. The XTPs work well too, and they usually mushroom.  After shooting various odds and ends side-by-side, the WFNGC seems to have a nastier impact plus penetration that doesn't stop.

Feeding can certainly be an issue in an autoloader with that wide flat nose. I have not had a single issue though in my G20 chamber.

That's good to hear!! As I said I also like a WFN but was worried about reliable feeding. I have not had the G20 that long and only got the KKM barrel in May. I would like to try some WFN bullets.
Do you cast your own? If so what mold? If buying them, what are you using?

Thanks for the comments!

CW

I have been loading the Double Tap 200 gr WFNGC component. Some folks have reported feeding issues in KKM barrels with that profile. I have considered switching to the Beartooth bullut because it is said to be of better quality.  Mike McNett said in an email to me that the DT bullet is close to identical to the Beartooth. It has been easier to order through DT so I have not made the switch.

Tel me more about these bullets... Do you have contact info or a link \to them?

CW
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REDLINE

Relatively wide variance in likeability the way I'm seeing the results so far.  It will be interesting to see how things change with a lot more votes.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Taterhead

Quote from: cwlongshot on July 06 2012 06:09:52 PM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on July 03 2012 07:23:37 PM MDT
Quote from: cwlongshot on July 03 2012 05:53:50 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on July 02 2012 10:19:24 PM MDT
Quote from: cwlongshot on July 02 2012 05:53:32 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on June 29 2012 11:30:12 PM MDT
I like a 200 gr WFNGC hardcast for walking around in the Idaho wilderness near where I live - handloaded to a little over 1200 fps from my G20. 200 grain XTPs are a distant second with 180 grain XTPs as a good do-it-all offering.
Tater,
Why the dislike of the 200 XTP?

I see your in Idaho so bears are a likely sighting. I know a hard cast will out penetrate the XTP 10 times outta 9 but is that your only reason?

I use allot of WFN hard cast slugs from my 45 Colt in 300&325 gr. but haven't found one for the 10mm that looks to reliably feed.

CW

Hi CW,

I do not dislike the XTPs. I actually like them. But I really like what I see when I shoot stuff with the wide flat nosed hardcast bullets. They put a big deep hole in things. The XTPs work well too, and they usually mushroom.  After shooting various odds and ends side-by-side, the WFNGC seems to have a nastier impact plus penetration that doesn't stop.

Feeding can certainly be an issue in an autoloader with that wide flat nose. I have not had a single issue though in my G20 chamber.

That's good to hear!! As I said I also like a WFN but was worried about reliable feeding. I have not had the G20 that long and only got the KKM barrel in May. I would like to try some WFN bullets.
Do you cast your own? If so what mold? If buying them, what are you using?

Thanks for the comments!

CW

I have been loading the Double Tap 200 gr WFNGC component. Some folks have reported feeding issues in KKM barrels with that profile. I have considered switching to the Beartooth bullut because it is said to be of better quality.  Mike McNett said in an email to me that the DT bullet is close to identical to the Beartooth. It has been easier to order through DT so I have not made the switch.

Tel me more about these bullets... Do you have contact info or a link \to them?

CW

Here you go CW, a link to the website:

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=77&products_id=269&osCsid=p8vu1ancr590f52rr20knngab3

Double Tap used to load the Beartooth version before "insourcing" bullet casting. They are very close to this bullet:

http://beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm

Navigate to the 40 cal bullet via the list on the left-hand side of the screen.

Hope that helps.

REDLINE

Any chance some of the newer members would be interested in adding to the poll results?
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Maine1

for practice, i load  a cast 175 Gr Lee TL bullet, same as i run in 40.

The 180 XTP is my carry load, and the 200 gr XTP is my woods/survival/SHTF/EOTWAWKI load. I'd be fine with the 200 XTP for about anything, though it migh be overkill for urban carry. god thing i'm not an urbanite.

I'd REALLY like to get a quality steel mold, multi cavity, for a 200 gr 10mm bullet for both a general purpose/practice load for all the mixed brass i have. 1-2K of that loaded up with a charge of blue dot would make me happy.