NRA Press Release

Started by Patriot, June 01 2013 01:56:11 PM MDT

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Patriot

There is no conspiracy by one person to buy up all the ammo companies.
There is no government conspiracy to buy all of the ammo components.
The government has not ordered ammo companies to limit production.

The internet rumors are causing the shortage. People are buying too much.

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/5/rumor-control-ammo-shortages-revisited!.aspx

REDLINE

I think it was good to put it out there officially in a new thread.  None of it was anything I thought was going on, but clearly a big chunk of the population out there does.  In some ways I don't think it's been all bad.  I like the idea that all old stock that was sitting around anywhere is all being replaced by fresh new stock.  Now I don't have to wonder how long a jug of powder was sitting on a shelf before it came to me, even if it really never mattered much in the first place.  Just one of my own idiosyncracies.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

sqlbullet

I am still shooting up WWII surplus powder in 30-06.  As long as you don't abuse it with extreme temps and humidity, it keeps for a VERY long time.

Good press release.

The_Shadow

Given the amount of stuff people are buying, when it slows down the shelves will fill up again an buying will be slower for a while if everything we read is true.  However thinking about the micro stamping of ammo which is going into affect in Communist California then there may be a phase in period and they may require all other ammo be disposed of or used up to be in compliance.  This will not stop criminals in their plight of crimes using guns... :(

Will we see micro stamping of all ammo in states that are not restricted by such misguided laws?  ???
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RRMan03

In TN only if it becomes a federal law because it will neverpass the house ,senate or get signed by any govenor. and if it was to happen there is already enough stockpiled to last 100 years. So if the deem the old ammo illegal you will have a lot of criminals and there is not one cop I know who will be out looking for a stamp on fired brass. They have plenty of speeders to catch so why waste time looking for acorns in a pine forest.Another brilliant law from our most thoughtful of states.Sorry to you guys who live there and have to put up with that crap. As much as I love TN if it goes bad here and at my age doubtful,Texas would be my next stop.

Rick1987

Quote from: REDLINE on June 01 2013 05:15:31 PM MDT
I think it was good to put it out there officially in a new thread.  None of it was anything I thought was going on, but clearly a big chunk of the population out there does.  In some ways I don't think it's been all bad.  I like the idea that all old stock that was sitting around anywhere is all being replaced by fresh new stock.  Now I don't have to wonder how long a jug of powder was sitting on a shelf before it came to me, even if it really never mattered much in the first place.  Just one of my own idiosyncracies.

I'm not sure how I feel about that.  The ammo that was sitting on the shelves was not manufactured in a rush.

All this "new"  ammo is coming from a factory running 24/7 trying to get it out as fast as possible.
How do you think QC is going to be?

sqlbullet

Quote from: Rick1987 on June 03 2013 04:43:18 AM MDT
I'm not sure how I feel about that.  The ammo that was sitting on the shelves was not manufactured in a rush.

All this "new"  ammo is coming from a factory running 24/7 trying to get it out as fast as possible.
How do you think QC is going to be?

For the big guys, no concerns. My father-in-law is in explosives safety and hazards analysis and has done reviews of safety of places like Lake City, as well as a number of others.  Their automation is such that they not only weigh the charge, but they weigh the case before and after charging.  Humans only get involved in things like boxing, and putting more raw materials into machinery.  Running more shifts isn't going to change their quality.

For the smaller guys that might be rushing to fill orders, this is a real concern.  Might even be worth sacrificing 5% of a give order to validate consistency.  Especially if you reload and have the press and dies to just put pulled samples back together.

REDLINE

Quote from: Rick1987 on June 03 2013 04:43:18 AM MDT
Quote from: REDLINE on June 01 2013 05:15:31 PM MDT
I think it was good to put it out there officially in a new thread.  None of it was anything I thought was going on, but clearly a big chunk of the population out there does.  In some ways I don't think it's been all bad.  I like the idea that all old stock that was sitting around anywhere is all being replaced by fresh new stock.  Now I don't have to wonder how long a jug of powder was sitting on a shelf before it came to me, even if it really never mattered much in the first place.  Just one of my own idiosyncracies.

I'm not sure how I feel about that.  The ammo that was sitting on the shelves was not manufactured in a rush.

All this "new"  ammo is coming from a factory running 24/7 trying to get it out as fast as possible.
How do you think QC is going to be?

I don't believe any factory that wasn't running 24/7 before the hoarding is running 24/7 now.  The extra overhead in the short run wouldn't be worth it.

I don't believe any manufacturer is trying to get anything out faster than they were before the hoarding, unless they don't need extra overhead to do so and QC isn't affected.

I don't believe QC will change from how it was before the hoarding.  Regardless, QC varies by manufacturer, hoarders or not.

There are certainly exceptions to every rule.  Overall though I still feel strongly about my opinions mentioned above.  My guesses are based on nothing more than good business sense.

Keep in mind, no manufacturer is loosing any money they were making before the hoarding began. 

Can manufacturers in general make more money in the short run by pushing production?  Yes.  But also keep in mind that to do it at the expense of lesser QC would be horrible business practice for the future if they already had/have a good name and product out there already.  IOW you don't take the chance of giving your product a bad name because of poor QC for a short run profit gain because you could just as easily end up ruining future profits by putting out bad product and word getting around about it.

That's not to say all business decision makers make smart decisions all the time either.  But when they don't they usually don't last long afterward, or they can still be hanging in there, but at extreme profit loss.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.