Hottest 10mm load

[DM1906]

Then don't do it.  Simple.

[The_Shadow]

I would agree, airing on the sides of functional reliability and accuracy...We still need to explore the ballistic potentials but not necessarily carry those as our carry ammo...

Handloading allows for making custom rounds to fit any and all situations...Not to mention the excitement!

[gandog56]

Then don't do it.  Simple.

That's easy, I DON'T! The problem here is I'm trying to understand OTHER people's reasoning for always wanting max velocity loads as the end all product.

[DM1906]

Then don't do it.  Simple.

That's easy, I DON'T! The problem here is I'm trying to understand OTHER people's reasoning for always wanting max velocity loads as the end all product.

It isn't that, at all.  Maximum power ON TARGET is the goal.  But, ridiculous power a little on target is just plain fun.

[gandog56]

All I'm saying is ridiculous power may not even HIT that little target! Like I said, I refine recipes until I find the MOST accurate load. Which has NEVER been near a max load.

[The_Shadow]

The things I also take into consideration are:
The Gun - its trigger pull and reset, sights (target or combat style), balance and weight and barrel length.
The Ammo - what is the intended use (personal protection, hunting, target or general plinking), which ever it is it has to run 100% functional.
The Shooter - Needs to understand his limitations, strength or weaknesses, the guns limitations as it pertains those the needs.

The Bullet - selection, design (JHP, FMJ, Cast, SWC, other), weight vs. use.  We 10mm users are using the current bullet designs as produced by the manufactures which are mostly designed for the weaker 40S&W cartridge performance envelope.  Therefore when we push the envelope of the design characteristics, we may see some negative results in terminal ballistics.
The Hornady XTP's are a tougher bullet, but I feel the 200gr XTP HP cavity is a little too small, but will work

I am in the heavier weight bullet arena for 10mm because of many of these aspects.  One of the reasons that the 45ACP was successful was because they were driving the heavy 230 grain FMJ bullets at the safest maximum velocity. 

Even the FBI study searched the 10mm and settled on the 180 grain bullet at 980 fps, but that was meant to fit particular criterion and test medias.  Seeing how Law Enforcement works in numbers of personnel and close proximity, their goal is to bring the perp into custody while keeping themselves and others in proximity safe.

Seeing those Speer 200 grain Gold Dot HP's are very interesting and promising which should provide great performance at the (=/+/-) 1200 fps velocity range.  

[gandog56]

I like 180-185 grain loads? Why? Because the couple brands of 200 grain bullets I tried were not as...dare I say it....accurate.

[REDLINE]

Then don't do it.  Simple.

That's easy, I DON'T! The problem here is I'm trying to understand OTHER people's reasoning for always wanting max velocity loads as the end all product.

It isn't that, at all.  Maximum power ON TARGET is the goal.  But, ridiculous power a little on target is just plain fun.

Exactly.

[REDLINE]

All I'm saying is ridiculous power may not even HIT that little target!

At what range?  What little target?  200 meters out silhouette targets?

[DM1906]

All I'm saying is ridiculous power may not even HIT that little target!

At what range?  What little target?  200 meters out silhouette targets?

Of course.

[REDLINE]

All I'm saying is ridiculous power may not even HIT that little target!

At what range?  What little target?  200 meters out silhouette targets?

Of course.

I wonder if gangdog56 understands the difference between bullseye shooting and combat accuracy?  I'll take waaaaay more power with combat accuracy over a mousefart bullseye load anyday for self defense.

If all I cared about was bullseye shooting I'ld get a 9mm since power wouldn't be in the equation anymore anyway.

[gandog56]

All I'm saying is ridiculous power may not even HIT that little target!

At what range?  What little target?  200 meters out silhouette targets?

Of course.

You going to chase me all over this board to insult me, now? Get a frikkin' life, dude!
I wonder if gangdog56 understands the difference between bullseye shooting and combat accuracy?  I'll take waaaaay more power with combat accuracy over a mousefart bullseye load anyday for self defense.

If all I cared about was bullseye shooting I'ld get a 9mm since power wouldn't be in the equation anymore anyway.

[REDLINE]

You going to chase me all over this board to insult me, now? Get a frikkin' life, dude!

You think you're being chased?  No, I'm not chasing you.

I did honestly ask you;  At what range?  What little target?  200 meters out silhouette targets?

If you'ld like to offer an answer, that would be great.  In the mean time I was left to my own surmise.  Sorry it deeply offended you.

[gandog56]

Well, when I see you also going after me over something I posted in another thread, what else am I supposed to believe? By the way, the protests over the Zimmerman trial results are growing daily. I suppose every single one of the protesters is irrational since they disagree with you.

I would agree that the ones beating white people, looting stores, and burning buildings are, but surely not ALL of them are irrational. Do not make blanket statements like that.

[Retired Squid]

What I like about the 10mm is it has the widest selection of bullet types and weights of any caliber on the market. I have shot 135 gr Nosler close to 1700fps to 200gr Hornady pushing 1200fps and everything in between, you can't do this with other calibers. I love 38 Super and love it for just CCW due to light weight and ease of shooting, but nothing brings on peace of mind like my 180 to 200gr 10's that's for sure. Just wish they could make a light weight alloy 1911 Commander in 10mm that would hold up under the 10mm, until then it will be 38 Super.

Well I'm headed out to my shop to load some 10mm before switching the Dillon over for 38 Super making some HC L/SWC for paper punching with my DW RZ 38 Super when it arrives hopefully for my 68th birthday 25th of this month.

And as usual I will leave now for awhile as I get tired of the BS of "know it all" and whiners and will leave you all to you squabbles and bitch slapping. See you all again maybe next month or in a year, who knows.