9x25Dillon

Started by The_Shadow, June 25 2012 05:30:42 PM MDT

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REDLINE

Quote from: The_Shadow on July 16 2012 08:41:41 AM MDT
The 147's can be used however they occupy internal space and displace the amount of powder.  The 10mm can probably push the 155's and for sure the 135's faster.  There are trade offs, and yes many of the guys are still working with various loads and powders developing loads.  The 357Sig cartridge helps here some as a place to start with some powders.

I see what you're saying.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

platform

I just ordered a build 9x25 long slide, 2011 frame, threaded barrel with this compensator
http://www.egwguns.com/cnc-compensators/cnc-8-port-6-chamber-compensator/

This is done by fusion (custom build). They will also make the barrel (I called several places only bar sto replied that they would do one (as it is not listed ).
This whole thing costs like a small motorcycle

Looking forward getting it at least this year...

just subscribed to this forum to get updates on the development.

The_Shadow

platform, Are you going for a special gun or competition race gun?  While it sounds as though you're paying some premium monies, this does sound like a great build.  Fusion does make some great guns.
Do you handload or intend to load for the 9x25Dillon cartridge?
Good luck with the build, please post pictures and a range report when its done!
Regards
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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MrRedbull616

wouldn't mind seeing a 115gr barnes tac xp bullet from 9x25  :)

The_Shadow

Yes the Barnes tac xp bullet in 115 gr would be nice.  They are as long as the 125 lead core and probably run along at near the same speeds as the 125's but will hold together much better in various medias.
I have some Barnes tac xp 125 gr bullet that I am going to load when I get some loads dialed in, they are as long as the 147gr lead core counterparts.

At the moment I am loading some Sierra 115 JHPs...
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platform

Sofar it is just a 'special gun'.  My skill is not there to compete.  So I am not using any 'rule book' to decide on weight/components etc. 

My goal for it to be 'over built' and reliable for the cartridge in it hottest load
My second goal is for it to be shootable, and the 3d (lesser importance) to be good looking even as years pass by.

I think Fusion can do all of that for me .
Also one of my asks was to test my build with 50 rounds of 95g doubletap 820+ ft/lbs (and save the brass) -- so expecting perfect function there as well

I do not reload now, but overtime as time facilities and time allows -- will definitely do that.  So far when I shoot I just save brass for the future (and will participate in group buys for 10mm/9x25 brass as they are being organized)


Once I get the build would like to hook up with somebody local to test the speed/penetration/brass friendliness/100 yards shoot-ability of the build.


Quote from: The_Shadow on August 06 2012 08:40:44 AM MDT
platform, Are you going for a special gun or competition race gun?  While it sounds as though you're paying some premium monies, this does sound like a great build.  Fusion does make some great guns.
Do you handload or intend to load for the 9x25Dillon cartridge?
Good luck with the build, please post pictures and a range report when its done!
Regards

The_Shadow

I hope they are doing yours as a ramped barrel configuration for the added case support.  Some have taken 38Super barrels and reamed the chamber to handle 9x25 with good results.
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REDLINE

Quote from: platform on August 07 2012 10:43:56 AM MDT
Sofar it is just a 'special gun'.  My skill is not there to compete.  So I am not using any 'rule book' to decide on weight/components etc. 

My goal for it to be 'over built' and reliable for the cartridge in it hottest load
My second goal is for it to be shootable, and the 3d (lesser importance) to be good looking even as years pass by.

I think Fusion can do all of that for me .
Also one of my asks was to test my build with 50 rounds of 95g doubletap 820+ ft/lbs (and save the brass) -- so expecting perfect function there as well

I do not reload now, but overtime as time facilities and time allows -- will definitely do that.  So far when I shoot I just save brass for the future (and will participate in group buys for 10mm/9x25 brass as they are being organized)


Once I get the build would like to hook up with somebody local to test the speed/penetration/brass friendliness/100 yards shoot-ability of the build.


Quote from: The_Shadow on August 06 2012 08:40:44 AM MDT
platform, Are you going for a special gun or competition race gun?  While it sounds as though you're paying some premium monies, this does sound like a great build.  Fusion does make some great guns.
Do you handload or intend to load for the 9x25Dillon cartridge?
Good luck with the build, please post pictures and a range report when its done!
Regards

I like the way you think.  Should end up being one awesome platform!
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

platform

#23
was told recently, that my gun will not be ready till December.  So the total wait time for this fusion build is now set for around 24 weeks.
(not sure exactly why, as I doubt it takes that long to build it and make the barrel, but ion bond finish takes very long wait time). While not happy about it, will wait till december.

I guess quite a few of Bob's clients order $3K guns -- so mine is one of many in the conveyer.


Will update here when I can finally get my hands on it, also hope by that time underwood will have 9x25 stamped ammo :-)
Still pretty excited :-)



platform

36 weeks sofar. My gun is still not ready (I do not think they even applied the ion bond finish yet).
So no particular progress to report.

I have been checking the underwood site for 9x25 -- nothing available for 3 months now.

cwlongshot

Quote from: platform on March 16 2013 11:56:06 PM MDT
36 weeks sofar. My gun is still not ready (I do not think they even applied the ion bond finish yet).
So no particular progress to report.

I have been checking the underwood site for 9x25 -- nothing available for 3 months now.

OUCH.....

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The_Shadow

#26
I got some trigger tome with the new G-20SF using the Lone Wolf Dist. 6" 9x25Dillon barrel and got to see some real good numbers today...
Dropped in the LWD 6" 9x25Dillon barrel and got the numbers I was looking for with my handloads...
121 gr Zero JHP's 0.356" over 10.5 grains of LongShot
1610 fps   case expansion 0.4280"
1591 fps   case expansion 0.4280"
1652 fps   case expansion 0.4280"
1648 fps   case expansion 0.4280" 
Primers moderately flat

110 gr Remington JHP 0.357" over 10.5 grains of LongShot
1738 fps  case expansion 0.4280"
1732 fps  case expansion 0.4280"
Primers slightly flat

125 gr Lyman Cast Devastator HP 0.356" Zombie Green painted
1642 fps  case expansion 0.4275"
Primers moderately flat
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REDLINE

Nice!  In a bottle neck case like that I bet Alliant's Power Pro 300-MP would do really well.  Maybe Lil-Gun too.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

The_Shadow

#28
Well maybe not, (PLEASE Do not take this wrong or as an attack on you)
I have friends who have tried Alliant's Power Pro 300-MP in 10mm as well as other cartridges, it is too bulky and you can't get enough inside to perform, the same is true for H-110 and Win296

Here are the dismal results from the Win296 which I wasn't going to post because of such poor performance...
121 gr. Zero JHP over 14.2 grains of Win296 with CCI350 primer as tested from the 6" tube:
1338 / 1217 / 1303 / 1204 / 1265
case expansion 0.4275" /  0.4270" /  0.4275" /  0.4270" /  0.4270"
Primers moderately flat
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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Southeast, LoUiSiAna

REDLINE

Yes, in 10mm Auto they do suck.  I tried it besides already knowing better.  9x25 Dillon is an entirely different animal being that it uses a bottlenecked cartridge case, which of course I know you're well aware.

What I know is that H110 works awesome in 357SIG if we're just talking about velocity.  That said, it would seem reasonable that Alliant Power Pro 300-MP (a faster burning powder than H110 or W296) could work really well in 9x25 Dillon, especially from your 6" tube.

I could certainly be wrong.  By the same token I would also certainly give it a try.  But that's just me, certainly do what makes you happy! 8)
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.