Hog medicine fmj brass fmj jhp and hard cast

[jdub1836]

I see some big hogs sometimes I'm talking 3-500# Would my 200 gr noslers loaded hotter than UW or BB or Dt do the job on a broadside shot or would I be better off using solids. And what is the big craze about Hard cast seems like a brass jacket flat point would be nearly the same. Only diff I see is the wider nose. It just seems like they'd run pretty far. I'm talking protein pellet, year round corn fed Russian/feral mix pigs up to 400+. I shot one in high school with a 270 double lunged her and she ran and took down a fence. She only made it about 50 yards. It was the coolest hog I've seen. She was atleast 400 I thought it was a cow from far way before she came in.

[Patriot]

Not sure I would use a hollow point on a hog, especially one that big. Hogs have extremely tough skin and fat layers that will prevent a hollow point from penetrating to the vital areas. I would go hard cast, 200 or 220 gr or FMJ at the very least, no less than 1200 fps. I would risk a 200 gr hollow point on deer or bear but a hog? No way.

[REDLINE]

What Grim Reaper said.  Couldn't have said it better myself.

[sqlbullet]

yep... 205 grain WFN at 1200 fps would be the medicine I would feed them.

[DAVIDF]

No personal experience with large hogs, only a small 100 pounder. But, someone on another forum swears by Speer TMJs for taking larger North American game & especially elk.

[gofastman]

I see some big hogs sometimes I'm talking 3-500# Would my 200 gr noslers loaded hotter than UW or BB or Dt do the job on a broadside shot or would I be better off using solids. And what is the big craze about Hard cast seems like a brass jacket flat point would be nearly the same. Only diff I see is the wider nose. It just seems like they'd run pretty far. I'm talking protein pellet, year round corn fed Russian/feral mix pigs up to 400+. I shot one in high school with a 270 double lunged her and she ran and took down a fence. She only made it about 50 yards. It was the coolest hog I've seen. She was atleast 400 I thought it was a cow from far way before she came in.

Flat nosed hardcast bullets generally kill much better than an FMJ even if it has a flat point
I dont really know why

[sqlbullet]

The why is the size of the flat.  A TMJ in 10mm will generally have a flat that is about .250" in diameter.  A WFN on the other hand will be at least 70%, and more likely 80% of bullet diameter.  That puts it between .280" and .320".  You even see some that are .350".

That big flat metplat cuts a larger hole, transmits more energy to the game, resulting in faster bleed out.

[rustytxr]

300 to 500 pounds you are under gunned with a 10mm unless you really shoot carefully and pick you shot.  I think the recovery percentage would be pretty bad.  I sure would not take pigs that big unless I had a dog (I do).  With a 10mm you will do some trailing if you hunt tight cover

I like the 200gr hp for the pigs I take (year old or less).  I hunt really tight privet thickets.  200 gr hp has best recovery rate for me

[d762nato]

300 to 500 pounds you are under gunned with a 10mm unless you really shoot carefully and pick you shot.  I think the recovery percentage would be pretty bad.  I sure would not take pigs that big unless I had a dog (I do).  With a 10mm you will do some trailing if you hunt tight cover

I like the 200gr hp for the pigs I take (year old or less).  I hunt really tight privet thickets.  200 gr hp has best recovery rate for me

I've see 5x5 elk killed with a 10mm longslide glock so I would think the 10mm and the right bullet would take down a big hog.

[sqlbullet]

A 22 in the right place can do the job.  On the farm growing up that is what we used, even on big boars.  But in those cases the animals were old, sick and domesticated.  You could walk right up to them and give them their shot of 2592 milligrams of lead inter-cranially at point blank range.

But with a wild hog you wont usually have that advantage, and if you upset them they may turn on you.  A 300-500 lb hog with tusks is definitely dangerous game.  Result is you don't want to be under-gunned.  And that is why I would agree that 10mm is marginal.  If you are gonna try it, and it is legal where you are, I would strongly suggest a hunting partner backing you with some stronger medicine if needed.

[DM1906]

I've see 5x5 elk killed with a 10mm longslide glock so I would think the 10mm and the right bullet would take down a big hog.

Elk aren't hogs.  All else being equal, it's a LOT easier to take an 800# bull elk than a 400# boar.  Considering the use of a marginally effective platform, such as the 10mm Auto handgun, the difference between them increases.

[rustytxr]

Elk aren't hogs.  All else being equal, it's a LOT easier to take an 800# bull elk than a 400# boar.  Considering the use of a marginally effective platform, such as the 10mm Auto handgun, the difference between them increases.

IMO you are correct.  This is especially true when recovery is considered in the equation.  I have only been elk hunting 7 times.  They big with a big kill area.  Trailing a elk is much easier then trailing a pig.  Pigs are just plain tough. 

10mm does a good job on smaller pigs.  Even them you have to place your shot well if you expect to recover you pig without a dog.  I hunt Texas pigs in February.  Poison ivy, ticks, and chigger numbers are down.  Last February I took 16 pigs  mostly with 10mm. (also took some 460 Rowland and 41 mag).

I really like 10mm.  Have hunted pig with Glock G20 since 1995.  In the 80s and 90s I was taking 30 or so a year.  At 70years old I have slowed down and can't work big pigs. 

[rustytxr]

[DM1906]

I agree.

And, hunting without a reasonable expectation of recovery ("taking") isn't hunting.  It's extermination, and it's illegal.  This is why many/most states have minimum "firepower" restrictions.

[d762nato]

I've see 5x5 elk killed with a 10mm longslide glock so I would think the 10mm and the right bullet would take down a big hog.

Elk aren't hogs.  All else being equal, it's a LOT easier to take an 800# bull elk than a 400# boar.  Considering the use of a marginally effective platform, such as the 10mm Auto handgun, the difference between them increases.

Well I've never shot a hog before so I guess I've just learned something. If I ever do get to go hog hunting I'll be carrying my old winchester 88 in 308 that should do the trick with my 10 as a secondary weapon. Thanks,