Black Talon 10mm rounds

[Jtigertic]

I have a box of Black Talons left over from way back when over the years it seems that they really weren't as great as the hype but for some reason are still bringing in money? Just curious as to why and what the box might be worth years down the road?

[Jtigertic]

Sorry meant to post this under the factory ammo subject

[John A.]

One thing I have learned is it's worth exactly what you're willing to pay for it.  Or, what someone else is going to be willing to pay you for it.

As for nailing down that it'll be worth $38.75 on April 7, 2026, I wouldn't want to even guess what anything will be "worth" at any time in the future.

[Kenk]

I still have some of those in 9 and .45, from what I?ve read, the Ranger T Series was a marked improvement, just without the lubalox coating

[The_Shadow]

The 200 grain 10mm Winchester Black Talon were loaded to 980 fps!  They actually worked as designed with the sharp point claws being a nasty spiral cutting and increasing the bleeding potential.

[Jtigertic]

The 200 grain 10mm Winchester Black Talon were loaded to 980 fps!  They actually worked as designed with the sharp point claws being a nasty spiral cutting and increasing the bleeding potential.

Shadow school me a little, 980 doesn't seem that fast compared the the 200gr gold dots I'm running at 1200fps were the talons really that much better? I'm probably gonna keep them in the box they came in just for nastalgia I got them from a gun shop owner that had them hiding behind the counter about 20 years ago. I noticed that he had a Glock 20 on his hip and pointed it out and mentioned that I had a 20 and also an FBI 1076 and after a few minutes of us talking he pulled out the box of talons I only paid 15.00 for them. Never opened the box.

[Kenk]

What a deal

[5pins]

They are going for about $100 or so now on gunbroker.

[Kenk]

For nostalgic purposes, they?re kinda neat, but beyond that, I don?t think they are as effective as, say the modern Ranger T Series

[RedTeam98]

Black Talon were not hype
The bullet caused massive damage to internal organs due to the way the bullet expanded.
This caused a lot of surgeons problems repairing gunshot victims. Since a lot of victims were black a change of name and bullet design followed.
I have one box of 25 in 40 Cal 180gr in my inventory.
A great bullet for home defense!

[Kenk]

They absolutely are, just as their modern day replacement, the Ranger T Series. It?s pretty amazing how bullet design has evolved over the last 30 years, and they weren?t half bad back in the 90?s.

[sqlbullet]

The black talon was one of the first "engineered" HP designs that was using emerging desktop engineering software to predict behavior mathematically.  The math was known for a very long time, but computing had been too expensive prior to the late '80's and early '90's to allow the math to be applied to anything but very expensive projects, like ICBM's or space travel.

The Intel 386/486 and the Motorola 68030/040 chipsets brought enough computing power that this analysis could be run at the engineers workstation.

[The_Shadow]

I bought a box of Winchester Black Talon when they first came out.  The only one I shot was to dispatch a wounded deer.  The bullet track wound was nasty with spiraled cuts.

By the way my first computer I built was AMD 386 DX40 Mhz (in those says AMD was making chips for IBM) and Slooooooooooow internet speeds back then!

[Alaska]

I still have a full box of 40 SW in 180gr Black Talons.
But no 40 SW pistol !

[Rojo27]

I remember the controversy surrounding Winchester Balck Talon different. 
The big deal was the media's false narrative (propaganda) that the black lubalox coated projectiles were actually designed and manufactured of materials to make them police Kevlar piercing "cop killer bullets."  Fake news isn't anything new in this country. 
Obviously, as everyone around here knows; nothing was further from the truth regarding the actual properties of a lubricated JHP Black Talons penetrating Kevlar vests (of appropriate rating). 

Enough bad PR was brought to bear on Winchester, they discontinued the Black Talons....  Only to remove the lubalox and reintroduce and rebrand as the SXT.....  Which later evolved into the Ranger T.  Similar technology later evolved into the PDX1 & Ranger Bonded lines.