Temporarily barred from FB for doing absolutely nothing wrong

[Kenk]

I?m not a big Facebook guy by any stretch, but do / did enjoy a few select firearms groups, as well a crime watch group for the Minneapolis area. So tonight an old friend tags me in a police training video, and I replied with a smiley face? BOOM, I was done. I could see it if I had said something inappropriate, as I?m sure many have done and totally deserved what got, but I didn?t  Ultimately, it?s probably a Blessing in disguise, but still really ticks me.

[Bluebird5000]

You do not want to build your hobbies in the back yards of people who despise your hobby, it just gives them power over you.

For discussion a text based forum like this is actually a better medium anyways.

[blaster]

I quit farcebook a couple years ago because I got tired of being banned for petty b.s.  recently another very active gun forum I am on was bought by the Toronto Star. those libs are screwing that up too! I'm getting tired of having to "walk on eggshells" and don't know how long I will be able to stand it. I know farcebook was started by an ultrra lib from the get-go but I think it is part of the libertard strategy to buy conservative leaning sights just so they can censure and keep us from communicating with each other.

[John A.]

Reality is, no one needs facebook to begin with.

And if you have a facebook, you should stop using it.

Nothing good is going to come from it.

Seriously.

You're only giving them your own words to twist around and use against you.  Even if it's perfectly innocent right now.  There may be a time when it's not.

I'm going to give you a perfect example.

Back in 2008, I was hurt at work, which caused me have to claim my workers comp.  I did not have a facebook account prior or since, but the workers comp lawyer was livid that he couldn't access my facebook account.  Because his whole defense was to use my pictures or words against me in any way possible.

Forget that I had done nothing wrong, but the comp lawyer even told the judge that I had taken my facebook down to not incriminate myself for fraud during court.



And when I told the judge I never had a facebook and never will, the comp lawyer demanded the name of my wife to look at her facebook account.  To which the judge told him no because my wife wasn't present at court and had no way of being questioned or cross examined, so that was the end of the comp lawyer attempts to gain access to stuff I didn't even have.

Seriously, when I tell you that nothing good is going to come from it,  I literally mean it.    Run away screaming.

People have the right to remain silent.  Just not the ability to.  In my situation, if I had given them anything to be able to use against me, believe me, they would've.  Even if it was a lie.  They don't care.  Like good little nazi's, they're just doing their jobs.

[Geeman]

Look up a DARPA project called Lifelog. 

They (congress) shut it down at the same exact time Facebook came into existence with several of the key players from the DARPA project.

Smell a rat yet?

Greg

[Kenk]

I?d almost bet that FB has a score card for it?s users, once they?ve determined you don?t fit their ultra left wing agenda, they show you to the door. Like I previously mentioned, I?m pretty sure it?s a Blessing in disguise

[mope540]

Reality is, no one needs facebook to begin with.

And if you have a facebook, you should stop using it.

Nothing good is going to come from it.

Seriously.

You're only giving them your own words to twist around and use against you.  Even if it's perfectly innocent right now.  There may be a time when it's not.

I'm going to give you a perfect example.

Back in 2008, I was hurt at work, which caused me have to claim my workers comp.  I did not have a facebook account prior or since, but the workers comp lawyer was livid that he couldn't access my facebook account.  Because his whole defense was to use my pictures or words against me in any way possible.

100% agree. Not only does FB push a certain political agenda while censoring another,  but any (useless or not) information, gossip, opinion, or pics that are posted on FB will never go away. Those posts are theirs to keep....and they make a lot of money selling that info...and it will eventually be passed on at no cost to big brother.

Your story reminds me of another example... a few years back someone had walked in front of the vehicle that i was driving while at work. He was at fault but tried to sue the employer anyway. At the deposition his lawyer, who was obviously ticked off that I don't use FB, made the snide comment "you don't have a Facebook account, do ya?"...as if that would put me in the wrong. I mentioned to him that a FB account is not a job requirement, so no I don't.
I'm guessing that he was fantasizing and hoping that i might have taken and shared pics of the scene, or had made comments such as "i saw some dude walk into the roadway so i mashed the pedal and steered hard to the right to clip him...it was fun"
Apparently some clown lawyers are highly suspicious of a person who does not have a FB account.
Employers, potential employers, insurance companies, police, etc., will all snoop on FB accounts. One of my coworkers will look for dirt on the FB account of anyone he has an issue with. That's a double edged sword that will some day bite him in the ***.
I can only shake my head at the family members and friends who are way too obsessed with FB.

[John A.]

 

Another perfect example that nothing good will come from having a fb account.

[Graybeard]

If you have a FB account and even mention guns, you're adding yourself to another list.

I met a fellow while on vacation a few years ago. He is the founder and CEO of a data collection and filtration software company contracted by DHS. He was very candid in explaining how the system works. Essentially, you get on their radar by buying ammo, reloading components, guns, etc, online. That's a small flag. Then if you have other activities online that suggest you're conservative, unhappy with the gov, etc, another small flag. Enough small flags and you're red flagged. This all started out as counter terrorism, but has turned into the justification for the current version of DHS claiming the biggest threat to our county is domestic terrorists, white supremacists, conservatives, blah, blah, blah.

I researched him and he was indeed what he claimed. I'm probably on another list just for posting this. I don't care because I'm old and have always been a fan of the truth. If the latter ends up costing me in the long run, so be it.

The fellow I mentioned entered into this originally to fight against foreign potential terrorists living in the US. Now contractually obligated to continue in this farce.

[Kenk]

Thanks Graybeard, I?m pretty sure their data repositories are brimming over the top. They really need to focus their energy on the real threats out there. In many respects, it?s been a huge Blessing in disguise

[John A.]

^ Yep.  Not surprised at all.

It's not just facebook.   It's virtually ALL and EVERY social media site.  Up to and including google and even youtube.

I watched a video last night from "armed attorneys" channel which discussed some of the case from The US vs. Texas in regards to it's firearm silencer law. 

Since I have been designing and making my own firearm suppressors for the biggest part of 2 decades now, I have always been watchful for anything that comes across the table from the other side (gov or atf, etc) where NFA ownership is concerned.

Well, in the video that I watched, the armed attorneys were covering some of the gov vs texas lawsuit in regards to taxes and the 2A and basically the jist of how the gov was trying to stop texas law.

Which had to deal with the tax code mostly.

But, I knew of an ATF document that contradicted what the government was saying.

So, in the comment section, I put a direct link to the page that blew the governments arguments out of the water, and even pasted the text in my comment.   

Unsurprisingly, youtube soon after deleted my post.

I thought, OK, maybe it was because of the direct link to the page or maybe it was because I pasted the los angeles field office phone number or some other specific info that may have violated youtubes terms or something so I omitted that and made essentially the same reply again this morning.

The reply went through.  I refreshed the page about 10 seconds later, and bam, it was gone again.

In the end, I didn't waste my time trying to share info with some youtube channel, so I emailed the Texas AG office directly since they were the ones that really needed the info anyway.  I was mostly just pointing out the government hypocrisy.

So, youtube is certainly censoring people from sharing data for sure that may go against what guv wants.

Just like where facebook said they were doing in regards to hunter bidens laptop before the elections.  Zuckerberg openly admitted that in an interview recently.

So, it's not just facebook folks.  It's anything online.  They have the ability to direct the narrative how they want it and areopenly do so.

Here is the specific video that I'm referring to from last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSQgRvbOZb0

Here is the abbreviated post that I made after I removed any specific contact info and was a direct copy/paste of the last paragraph in the letter from the los angeles atf office:

While the NFA was enacted by Congress as an exercise of its authority to tax, the NFA had an underlying purpose unrelated to revenue collection. As the legislative history of the law discloses, its underlying purpose was to curtail, if not prohibit, transactions in NFA firearms. Congress found these firearms to pose a significant crime problem because of their frequent use in crime, particularly the gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine?s Day Massacre. The $200 making and transfer taxes on most NFA firearms were considered quite severe and adequate to carry out Congress? purpose to discourage or eliminate transactions in these firearms.

Here is a section of the screenshot of that specific paragraph


The info that I shared above was directly related to what the youtube discussion video was about.  And youtube straight up nuked it from being shared.

Just for proof if anyone needs it,  here is a direct link to the entire 1 page document.

https://www.atf.gov/news/pr/atf-releases-2017-report-firearms-commerce-us
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On another subject directly with youtube, I was documenting the number of likes and dislikes to one of the official youtube whitehouse page in a statement about gun control that biden had done.  I don't remember the video exactly, however, I took screenshots that showed the date and times that youtube had removed literally hundreds of dislikes at a single time to make it appear that there is not as many people who are opposed to that.

I did the screenshot so it would not only capture the dislikes, but the date and time that I did it, which you can see in the bottom right hand side of my computer screen.



9:08PM 803 dislikes


10:49PM 721 dislikes

I have about a half dozen screenshots that shows youtube screwed with the dislike counts continually at least once an hour until the video dropped out of view.

This is also the main reason why youtube has mostly removed the dislikes from all videos now because they said it served no purpose.  But, what was really happening is it didn't serve the purpose they wanted.

It's not even just this video.  Almost every single official whitehouse video is the same way.  Basically, if you are not cow-towing the line they want, they'll just censor you.

Here's just one other example.


2.9k dislikes 8:17PM


2.8k dislikes 8:36PM

[Kenk]

Thanks for taking the time to do this John, their manipulated numbers seem par for the course, plus it?s likely much worse than we realize

[John A.]

I'm very old school kenk.  I was raised with right and wrong.

So, when someone lies or is underhanded, they lose my trust.

This goes for news, newspapers, social media.

They're all guilty of it.   Even the ones that are more popular with "the right"

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo

[Kenk]

Is absolutely  ?Dangerous to Our Democracy?

[sqlbullet]

Big reason I am a fan of apnews.com

If you carefully read their articles, they make a very concerted effort to report facts.  It was pointed out in another electronic venue that they are lone agency left that still adheres to the "old" rules of partiality that were the norm in the Cronkite era of reporting.

They report facts, they don't draw conclusions.  If they report the fact that someone drew a conclusion, they attribute it to the speaker.