10mm carbine hunting

Started by John A., March 27 2022 03:24:55 PM MDT

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Mike D

Quote from: John A. on April 09 2022 11:10:10 AM MDT
I agree.  And my big draw towards a carbine.

I've been considering one of the VISM solar powered red dots for this gun.  I've seen them listed around $100.

I have an older tasco solar power red dots on my crossbow and soon as it cracks day (barely), the dot illuminates.  No worry of the optic failing because the battery is dead (which would ruin a hunting trip). The only time you need batteries is at night if you were hog hunting or something.

I'm a slow bloomer when it comes to electronic sights on my hunting guns.  I have always used irons or low powered 1-5x traditional hunting scopes.  Most of my defensive guns also have low powered magnification as well.

But, the solar powered red dot has grown on me enough that I believe I want another now. 

The tasco's are discontinued and were really only meant for 22's with a dovetail mount, but I was able to get a dovetail/picatinny adapter and have used it the last 2 seasons on the crossbow with good success.  It's held zero and just flat out works.

I generally hunt out of a ground blind or very occasionally a tree stand.  My shots are pretty close ~50 yards or often less.  And why I started down the 10mm rabbit hole.
Another very good option is the Trijicon RMR reflex sights that use fiber optics and tritium. No batteries or solar power necessary.


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John A.

Yeah, triji's are nice.  But a bit over budget for a brush beater.  It would cost more than the entire gun build.
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Rvrrat14

For what it?s worth, I use a Sig Romeo 5 red dot on my MechTech.   Just killed a hog at 120 yards last weekend.   I also use a monocular mounted behind it for night work.

John A.

Quote from: Rvrrat14 on April 11 2022 06:52:40 PM MDT
For what it?s worth, I use a Sig Romeo 5 red dot on my MechTech.   Just killed a hog at 120 yards last weekend.   I also use a monocular mounted behind it for night work.

I had glanced over the sig romeo5 and was leaning towards a vism with solar panel, but after seeing the torture test that alabama arsenal and was pretty impressed that it survived.  Especially the #7 shot blast from about 10 yards away.  That's a lot worse than anything I think I would be subjecting it to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuq_N129SAI

So, unless something changes between now and I get the extra $ to buy it, that's probably the one that I'm probably going to go with.  Found one new for $89 shipped, so definately in the budget.

Am curious what kind of mount and monocular you're using.  I have a few different NV setups, but always willing to look at something new.

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Rvrrat14

Quote from: John A. on April 12 2022 05:53:11 PM MDT
Quote from: Rvrrat14 on April 11 2022 06:52:40 PM MDT
For what it?s worth, I use a Sig Romeo 5 red dot on my MechTech.   Just killed a hog at 120 yards last weekend.   I also use a monocular mounted behind it for night work.

I had glanced over the sig romeo5 and was leaning towards a vism with solar panel, but after seeing the torture test that alabama arsenal and was pretty impressed that it survived.  Especially the #7 shot blast from about 10 yards away.  That's a lot worse than anything I think I would be subjecting it to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuq_N129SAI

So, unless something changes between now and I get the extra $ to buy it, that's probably the one that I'm probably going to go with.  Found one new for $89 shipped, so definately in the budget.

Am curious what kind of mount and monocular you're using.  I have a few different NV setups, but always willing to look at something new.

It?s a Bushnell Equinox and it came with a rail mount.  Don?t think they have it anymore. 

John A.

I know the one you're referring to.

I have an old bushnell IR that uses two AA batteries.  Which at the time, was great not having some weird battery to have to keep in stock.

I never had the bushnell NV though.  Only the IR that i used with one of my russian import gen1's, which I no longer have now either.

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John A.

I ended up buying a sig romeo5 from ebay, but turns out, it's a counterfeit knockoff.

Just my luck. ???  Disputed it with paypal already though but they said could take up to 2 weeks for some reason.

Sadly, in looking at the auction, they had said they sold 24 of them already.  Some with + feedback, but for $100+, I'm not accepting a counterfeit regardless of how close they are to the originals.  If I buy a sig sauer romeo5, that's what I expect to get.  Not a frig sour.

Once I get the refund, I'll just get the vism solar dot that I was considering at first.  That way I won't have to worry about counterfeits  and thieves.  I don't think that kind of optic has a high enough following for that.

The larger grip I wanted to use has arrived.  Another mag.  Only thing I'm waiting on now is the refund so I can get a different red dot. Am waiting on a muzzle mount attachment so I can put the suppressor on it.  That will probably be here late this week.

I know using supersonic ammo, isn't going to be as quiet as a good subsonic 9mm or 38 special or what-not, but I think it will at least be pleasant enough to shoot while plinking and  hunting and not go deaf doing it.
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broseph

My Sig Juliet 4 is coming today or tomorrow, and it'll be w/ a red dot I've already got on and thus, ready to hunt. How far out can I expect to hit a deer or boar with my CMMG Banshee MK10 10mm and those optics?

John A.

I don't know.  That depends on a lot of things.  But, mostly you and your skill (or lack thereof).  That's not being smart alecky--you may be the best shot in the world--I don't know--but there's only one way to find out.

Start at 25 yards, shoot at a paper plate.  Back up to 50 yards.  Shoot another paper plate.  And keep progressing rearward in 25 yard intervals until you can find your personal limit and where you're comfortable with.

Same process as I use for patterning shotguns.  Though, I don't do that at 25 yard intervals.  I start at 25 yards and then move backwards 5 or 10 yards at a time until I notice a significant decrease in pellets on the plate for shotgun shell and choke patterning.

Myself, I'm either lucky or cursed at the distances that I can deer hunt.  It's typically well within 75 yard shots and the 10mm can do that no problem. 

But, you also wouldn't want to shoot at 800 yards in the rocky mountains from ridgetop to ridgetop like some people can do with rifles.  You'll quickly get into stuff that the bullet was never designed to do.   But this is the joy of learning a new gun.  You get to spend some time with it and find out your personal limits with it.

Sorry that my answer is as clear as mud, and again, I wasn't putting you or the gun down.  It's just that there's no real way for anyone to answer that but you and sending lead downrange.  So, that's my blunt but honest answer.

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