Another EAA Witness

Started by TriedandTrue, December 05 2021 04:02:00 PM MST

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TriedandTrue

I saw where there were discussions about the EAA Witness Compact several months ago.
I ran across a great deal on a polymer compact, and purchased it. I had been thinking about getting a Glock 29 before, but this fortunate? Incident occurred and I picked the EAA up at a bargain basement price.
My question is probably a restatement of many of the previous posts, and I don?t even have any 10mm ammo yet, but, I have read of problems requiring replacement of springs, and quite a bit of tweaking.
This is a new firearm, so hopefully, some of the problems of the past have been addressed.
I wanted this for an EDC, and obviously need something dependable.
All comments appreciated.

DenStinett

Welcome to the Forum T&T
If yours is the one I'm thinking of, it's 14+1, P-Carry
If so, then it's actually, it's a Semi Compact
If it's 11+1, then it is their P Compact
Either way, a nice Pistol
My EDC is a 10mm, Steel Framed Witness, Semi Compact (15+1) DuoTone I Special Ordered
So tell me again how Trump was worse then the 8 years before .... AND what came after HIM !

sqlbullet

Shoot 200 rounds and then report back if issues persist.  My experience is that witness 10mm mags work best if stored loaded.  Not sure why.

gnappi

Quote from: TriedandTrue on December 05 2021 04:02:00 PM MST
I saw where there were discussions about the EAA Witness Compact several months ago.
I ran across a great deal on a polymer compact, and purchased it. I had been thinking about getting a Glock 29 before, but this fortunate? Incident occurred and I picked the EAA up at a bargain basement price.
My question is probably a restatement of many of the previous posts, and I don?t even have any 10mm ammo yet, but, I have read of problems requiring replacement of springs, and quite a bit of tweaking.
This is a new firearm, so hopefully, some of the problems of the past have been addressed.
I wanted this for an EDC, and obviously need something dependable.
All comments appreciated.

I have and have had quite a number of Tanfos (9mm, .38  super, 10mm, and .40) from full race to EDC , and the only "tweaking" needed was load development. For a LOT of years my EDC was an all steel Tanfo compact 10 in wonder finish.

Yes there is a LOT you "can" do to them with Tanfo factory goodies, and several sites dedicated to juicing them up, but like the 1911 crowd many Tanfo owners just will not and cannot leave them alone.

Trust me, shoot it, diddle with making range ammo,  find a factory or hand loaded ammo you're comfortable with and you're done. The only thing negative I've read about them was slide cracking in the 10mm's and of those I'm pretty sure they were high mileage using hot rod loads. 

So you know, since the 80's here's a list of all the spare Tanfo parts I keep.
NONE :-)



















Regards,

    Gary

blaster

I love the Witness pistols. they look, feel and shoot good. (when working properly) I have had 2 10mm pistols that the frame cracked on though. they both were jam -o- matics as well.  EAA replaced them with NO questions asked. (their customer service has GREATLY improved over the years) each of the replacement pistols was "better" than the one it replaced but  the last pistol they sent me is 100% reliable out of the box. (after a couple of boxes of ammo to break it in.) so good that I'm not going to install any of the after market parts I bought to get the other two running better! the new replacement also has adjustable sights. (the other two would not shoot P.O.A. with their fixed rear sight.) it also has a silver Wonder Finish frame and a black slide. I wonder if EAA sent me a higher grade model?  since your Witness is a new gun, I hope yours will also be a "good one".

TriedandTrue

Thanks for all of the informative replies. The Witness should arrive today; I purchased some Magtech 180gr and Sig V-Crown 180gr ammo. I?ll take it to the range and see how the firearm performs. Hopefully, no aftermarket parts will be required. However, I did order a Henning upgrade kit:
H081-30    Conefit Guide Rod - protects your frame from battering.
H051-TL    XL Firing Pin - aids positive primer ignition.
W15114     Lighter Hammer Spring - reduces trigger pull weight.
H037-18    Lightened Trigger Plunger Spring - reduces trigger pull weight
Also purchased an extra magazine.
The above kit looks like it?s more for shooter comfort and dependability of the weapon.
Still, I?ll just have to see how things go before making any changes.

challer61

I am looking for an EAA 10mm that is DA/SA. What model should I look at?

blaster

all the EAA Witness line except the Hunter are DA/SA.

gmtmaster

I have had no problems with mine.

TriedandTrue

This is a little OT, but in the booklet that came with the Witness, it states not to use +P ammo. I?m just learning 10mm brands and ballistics, but haven?t seen that much +P ammo out there. The Buffalo Bore and Lehigh ammos look to be on the upper end of muzzle energy, but Buffalo states their ammo is fine for properly operating firearms.
Just curious what ammo many here use; I realize that might encompass the whole spectrum of ammunition, but surely there are a few favorites that have been dependable and reliable over the years.
Can?t believe I didn?t say a thing about the EAA Witness ! Picked it up yesterday, plan to go to the range tomorrow, but it?s one beautiful firearm ! The 14 round magazine with spacer that I purchased works great, plan to get another. The Witness has a great feel in the hand; I can see that the trigger and double action may need those aftermarket springs, but all in all, the Witness P is one beautiful handgun.

Intercooler

They for sure put that in the printings. I have ran the hottest stuff in all calibers through mine and haven't had an issue.

cowboybart

Please let us know how it works out.  I am shopping for a DA/SA 10 and the Witness Compact is high on my list.  I lean more toward the steel frame, but am interested in how the poly shoots.

sqlbullet

+P seems to be one of the most mis-uderstood terms in ammunition.

+P is an official saami designation for ammo that has the same exterior dimentions but is made to a different (higher) pressure than when the cartridge was initially introduced.  In some cases this may include different internal brass dimensions, but not usually.  9mm Luger is a 35000 PSI cartridge by SAAMI spec, while 9mm +P is 38,500 PSI by spec.

There is no such thing as +p 10mm ammo.  If it is loaded beyond 37,500 PSI it is out of spec, not +P.

All ammo makers claim their ammo is loaded within SAAMI spec, including Buffalo Bore, Underwood and Double Tap.

I think personally they use the same manual for all Witness guns, and the +P warnings apply to the 9mm versions.

gnappi

Quote from: blaster on December 13 2021 05:37:52 PM MST
all the EAA Witness line except the Hunter are DA/SA.
Most are DA/SA. The "Limited custom" "Match" and "Elite Match 10mm" are SAO. The best way to tell is their DA/SA pistols have a much more defined curve to the trigger face fitting the finger while the SAO is much straighter think 1911 trigger face profile. 
Regards,

    Gary

steve59

Bump, I have a witness stock 3 with a 2020 stamp on it, presuming that's the manufacture year? anyhow its shot hundreds of blazer brass, magtek, pmc and today I splurged and ran several clips of Buffalo Bore through it. After reading and seeing the youtube vids recommending upgrading the springs I was curious, so far the gun has been flawless tho today the full loads might have loosened the stock wood grips a bit. CZ type pistols fit my hand and accuracy is intuitive. The shop gave me a discount for paying cash and that was a pleasant surprise. My only complaint is the cost of 10mm rounds