Witness launching spent brass into orbit

Started by catcityslim, September 12 2021 03:46:37 PM MDT

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catcityslim

I recently purchased a Witness in 10mm. I installed a 20 pound recoil spring in it before I fired it. It functions very well, but I have one issue. It launches spent brass a good 30 feet. This is a problem because I don't have a great supply of brass, and it is difficult to find the brass casings when they are thrown that far. Does anyone know if I install a heavier recoil spring, it will slow down the slide enough to moderate the force with which the brass is ejected. As far as I know, the heaviest recoil spring available is 22 pounds.

Patriot

#1
The 22 pound spring won't help much. Maybe 1-2 feet less.

This is common for the Witness and 10mm in general.

I bought a cheap photography backdrop and frame on Amazon for $50 and put it to my right to stop the brass from flying (if shooting outdoors).

Edit: the other link didn't have the frame. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08HYNV9T7/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&pd_rd_i=B08HYNV9T7p13NParams&th=1

Kenk

Lol, my RIA full size 10mm, and Sig P220 Elite travel easily that far, if not further, will be looking into Patriots link as well

38-40

#3
Yep my XDM with full power loads is about the same. Was shooting a full size deer target on the 50 yard range and brass was bouncing of the bench two stations over.
You can't fix stupid but you can numb it for a while with a 2X4

Kenk

Yea, very frustrating, but well worth it 😀

sqlbullet

The trick is to set up your shooting area 3 miles behind and to the right of another 10mm shooter. If you both face away from each other then your brass will land at his feet and vice versa  :P.

In all seriousness, Patriot has the right answer:  Better containment.  Another option, though a bit more money, is to buy one of those 10X10 shade awnings at Costco when they are on sale, then sew mosquito netting onto all four sides.  Add a tarp floor and a folding table and chair and you have shade, a bench, a shooting rest, no bugs, and contained brass all together.  Shoot through the same side each time and patch the netting if needed.

Kenk


DenStinett

Indoors, I use a Handheld Brass Catcher


Outdoors, I use a DIY Brass Catcher with a similar design, that sets on the Bench or on a TriPod for standing / shooting offhand

So tell me again how Trump was worse then the 8 years before .... AND what came after HIM !

Kenk

Morning DenStinett, what hand held catcher do you use? And is workable with most pistols?, my primary range is a hayfield, close by and no fees and or other shooters. The down side is I lose 60 to 80% of my brass?yea, I know, a big price to pay for shooting but love shooting at this place. Any thoughts on Amazon / other URS would be great. I do have incredibly nice indoor options, but am ok opting out at this time
Thanks man!

DenStinett

Quote from: Kenk on September 15 2021 09:58:06 AM MDT
Morning DenStinett, what hand held catcher do you use? And is workable with most pistols?, my primary range is a hayfield, close by and no fees and or other shooters. The down side is I lose 60 to 80% of my brass?yea, I know, a big price to pay for shooting but love shooting at this place. Any thoughts on Amazon / other URS would be great. I do have incredibly nice indoor options, but am ok opting out at this time
Thanks man!
Hey Ken:
The Handheld I use most often is the Catch-All, and I also have a Graco
I catch better the 99%
Can't say it's 100, but I rarely lose a Case, even in 10mm
There are a couple others out there that look good i.e. :
https://www.amazon.com/Brass-Catcher-Pistol-Matte-Black/dp/B095RQ11PX/ref=sr_1_6?crid=7N53NFXY7C4R&dchild=1&keywords=brass+catcher+for+pistol&qid=1631753826&sprefix=brass+catcher%2Caps%2C217&sr=8-6

The one I use outdoor, I made from PVC and a Net Laundry Bag

Hope you find what works best for you
So tell me again how Trump was worse then the 8 years before .... AND what came after HIM !

Txmoose


Kenk

That?s for sure, the price we pay for such an awesome rd

jiminthe burg

Den Stinett posted a picture of his brass catcher sometime ago w/ a M1A, I think, pictured with it and later posted the dimensions of the catcher due to a request from another member.  I built one based on his and made a stand from scrap wood. Had to use 2 of the "bags" and make it deeper to suit my needs.
It works fine and if brass occasionally  bounces out of the bag, it ends up right at my feet so I hardly ever loose any brass. I belong to a private, outdoor range.
Thanks to Den Stinett for posting that picture several years ago.

sqlbullet

Quote from: Txmoose on September 15 2021 07:19:51 PM MDT
Low earth orbit or geosynchronous?

Pretty sure mine have the velocity to make a Hohmann transfer orbit. :P

Mr. D

I've tried hand/arm-mounted gadgets but don't care for them - several reasons. My solution is a large contraption involving fishnet material draped from a wide frame with a tarp underneath. Not meant to catch, just knock directly to the ground. Big so I can stand and move just a little. Wind breezes through the net vs. blown over.  'Draped' is key as any exposed (hard) frame surface will cause ricochets to be lost or hit your face.