New gloves included with every Glock purchase!

Started by Intercooler, December 07 2012 06:26:29 PM MST

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pacapcop

If only Sig made one,away with the Glock id go.

sqlbullet

Better keep you eyes open for one of the Grey Guns conversions they did of Sig 220's.  He may still do them on request.  Might be worth asking if you really want one.

But, they ain't cheap.

4949shooter

Quote from: sqlbullet on December 12 2012 07:51:01 AM MST
Better keep you eyes open for one of the Grey Guns conversions they did of Sig 220's.  He may still do them on request.  Might be worth asking if you really want one.

But, they ain't cheap.

How ain't cheap are they?

sqlbullet

I wanna say that Grey Guns charged $2000 or $2500 + the cost of the base gun.

Last one I say for sale went for $3,100.00

4949shooter

Quote from: sqlbullet on December 12 2012 11:19:21 AM MST
I wanna say that Grey Guns charged $2000 or $2500 + the cost of the base gun.

Last one I say for sale went for $3,100.00

Ouch. Way too rich for my wallet.

Intercooler



9mm Glock 19 shooting standard CCI Blazer Brass factory ammo. Beats me but they seem to think ammo was not the issue so if it quacks like a Duck  :o

The_Shadow

Has to have been a case blowout, which will dump the high pressure into the lower breech and down the mag well.  Damage dosen't appear to be as bad as higher pressure rounds like 40S&W and 10mm.
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The_Shadow

In some instances of a case blowout, the jetting of gases can force itself into the brass of the next round in the magazine, this can ignite the powder in some instances.  If that happens, then that round will also add to the expanding gas event to exert even more pressure ti the frame areas to crack the frame and blow the magazine out.
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DM1906

Quote from: The_Shadow on December 25 2012 03:57:36 PM MST
In some instances of a case blowout, the jetting of gases can force itself into the brass of the next round in the magazine, this can ignite the powder in some instances.  If that happens, then that round will also add to the expanding gas event to exert even more pressure ti the frame areas to crack the frame and blow the magazine out.

While this can happen, I've never seen it (except in staged demonstrations).  Only heard of the possibility.  If it were to happen, it would be a catastrophic KB!, and nothing like what we've seen.  When a KB! happens with a round chambered, most of the gas pressure exits the barrel, ejection port, and magazine channel (while the mag is blown out).  A magazine detonation would see the frame and magazine completely rupture, and cause significant injury, or worse.  The cartridge case would likely exit through a new hole to the rear.  This would be the only time an all steel frame (1911, et al) may be desirable.  Newton's 3rd physical law applies, in any case.

Stating that a round detonates "out of battery" only describes the event.  It speaks nothing of the cause, be it the cartridge, pistol material, or design failure.  In almost every case, the cause is the cartridge, and/or operator error (obstructed bore, poor maintenance, etc.).  First generation Glocks could fire out of battery, due to an issue with the striker safety.  I suspect that was the case with the G19 KB! (which appeared to be a Gen 1 or early 1.5), perhaps coupled with a fouled chamber (I've seen a few of these), or other issue.  Most of the time, they are essentially uneventful, causing only minor injury (hand bruising), and no upper pistol damage.  I don't know of any that Glock didn't cover under warranty, or at least offer replaced parts at cost.  I've seen many more times S&W revolvers blown apart than Glock autos (or any auto, for that matter), regardless of the cause.  Considering the number of models in service, they are well below the common rate of failure.  I am not a Glock advocate, and have fewer Glock pistols than any other brand.  I own more S&W revolvers (confidently) than any other handgun type.
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