The Giver

Started by Mongo, March 22 2016 08:00:46 AM MDT

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Mongo

I had a small epiphany watching "The Giver" last night.

Merl Streep's character (the senior elder of a dystopian community) states: "When people choose for them selves they choose wrong - every time"

It's not hard to imagine Hillary Clinton making the same statement.

sqlbullet

Curiously this is usually quite accurate.

Herd mentality is not nearly progressive enough to be right very often.

That said....

It is the right of the individual to be wrong.  Even mortally so.

And wrong is good enough 99.999% of the time.  After all, homo sapiens has emerged as the only apex species to have left the planet, all while being mostly wrong about everything.

DM1906

People learn from mistakes, theirs or others. If mistakes are not allowed or are rationalized, learning ceases. If failure isn't a real option, success isn't either. Darwin figured it out.
Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. -- The Duke

sstewart


Quote from: DM1906 on March 22 2016 07:01:50 PM MDT
People learn from mistakes, theirs or others. If mistakes are not allowed or are rationalized, learning ceases. If failure isn't a real option, success isn't either. Darwin figured it out.
This has nothing to do with Darwinism.

DM1906

Quote from: sstewart on March 22 2016 07:56:47 PM MDT

Quote from: DM1906 on March 22 2016 07:01:50 PM MDT
People learn from mistakes, theirs or others. If mistakes are not allowed or are rationalized, learning ceases. If failure isn't a real option, success isn't either. Darwin figured it out.
This has nothing to do with Darwinism.

I didn't say Darwinism, although it is a contributor to natural selection. He wrote about a lot of topics, including survival of the fittest. Learning ability and reasoning are fitness traits.
Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. -- The Duke

my_old_glock

Quote from: DM1906 on March 22 2016 07:01:50 PM MDT
People learn from mistakes, theirs or others. ...

That means the US is inhabited by something other than people, because whatever they are they haven't learned a thing from either their or someone else's mistakes.


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DM1906

Quote from: my_old_glock on April 22 2016 10:27:37 AM MDT
Quote from: DM1906 on March 22 2016 07:01:50 PM MDT
People learn from mistakes, theirs or others. ...

That means the US is inhabited by something other than people, because whatever they are they haven't learned a thing from either their or someone else's mistakes.


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Lesser organisms learn from their mistakes, or their bloodline ceases. Greater organisms (humans) make a conscious, (un)reasoned choice to not learn from, or rationalize (assign blame for) their mistakes. Rewriting or denying one's history is a conscious effort that ensures unwise decisions are repeated. Einstein's definition of insanity is only one example. Ultimately, according to (several of Darwin's, and others) natural theories, those bloodlines (genes) will discontinue.
Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. -- The Duke