10mm or 10mm kurz in a short barrel?

Started by Da/Sa Fan, October 31 2016 12:40:32 PM MDT

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Da/Sa Fan

OK. So I have decided that I want to up my game a bit for my "easy" EDC. I like my Witness steel in 10 and would like a polymer compact in 10 to replace my SAR B6PC in 9mm. But how much better would 10mm be than 10mm Kurz (40 S&W) in a 3.6 inch barrel? Can I find a factory load in 10mm that would be a definite advantage?

My "sometimes" EDC will eventually be a double stack Republic Forge 10mm in a shoulder rig, but that's a ways away!

sqlbullet

10mm from a 3.6" barrel will still exceed 40S&W from a full size (4.5"-5.0") barrel.  Might even beat it from a longslide.

SavageOne

I used a Witness Polymer Compact Carry 10mm as an EDC, right up till it broke a front rail guide at the range. I was thinking of getting a Steel Compact Carry, but was able to get a Grand Power P40 10mm and use that now.


Da/Sa Fan

Quote from: sqlbullet on October 31 2016 12:45:01 PM MDT
10mm from a 3.6" barrel will still exceed 40S&W from a full size (4.5"-5.0") barrel.  Might even beat it from a longslide.

Thanks. I almost exclusively use Underwood ammo. Would i be better off going with a lighter bullet weight to keep the velocity up? Especially thinking about XTPs. I don't know if they would expand well in the short barrel in the 200 grain weight that I shoot in my full size.

Da/Sa Fan

Quote from: SavageOne on October 31 2016 12:53:32 PM MDT
I used a Witness Polymer Compact Carry 10mm as an EDC, right up till it broke a front rail guide at the range. I was thinking of getting a Steel Compact Carry, but was able to get a Grand Power P40 10mm and use that now.

Don't know if I could find or afford a Grandpower in 10mm. Were there any mods done to your polymer compact?

SavageOne

Quote from: Da/Sa Fan on October 31 2016 01:01:33 PM MDT
Quote from: SavageOne on October 31 2016 12:53:32 PM MDT
I used a Witness Polymer Compact Carry 10mm as an EDC, right up till it broke a front rail guide at the range. I was thinking of getting a Steel Compact Carry, but was able to get a Grand Power P40 10mm and use that now.

Don't know if I could find or afford a Grandpower in 10mm. Were there any mods done to your polymer compact?

Henning conical guide rod and heavier recoil spring.

Da/Sa Fan

Quote from: SavageOne on October 31 2016 01:08:32 PM MDT
Quote from: Da/Sa Fan on October 31 2016 01:01:33 PM MDT
Quote from: SavageOne on October 31 2016 12:53:32 PM MDT
I used a Witness Polymer Compact Carry 10mm as an EDC, right up till it broke a front rail guide at the range. I was thinking of getting a Steel Compact Carry, but was able to get a Grand Power P40 10mm and use that now.

Don't know if I could find or afford a Grandpower in 10mm. Were there any mods done to your polymer compact?

Henning conical guide rod and heavier recoil spring.

Wow. I knew that it could be challenging to make the poly compact run right but I hadn't heard of them breaking. Does anyone know how common a problem it might be?

SavageOne

Quote from: Da/Sa Fan on October 31 2016 01:13:31 PM MDT
Quote from: SavageOne on October 31 2016 01:08:32 PM MDT
Quote from: Da/Sa Fan on October 31 2016 01:01:33 PM MDT
Quote from: SavageOne on October 31 2016 12:53:32 PM MDT
I used a Witness Polymer Compact Carry 10mm as an EDC, right up till it broke a front rail guide at the range. I was thinking of getting a Steel Compact Carry, but was able to get a Grand Power P40 10mm and use that now.

Don't know if I could find or afford a Grandpower in 10mm. Were there any mods done to your polymer compact?

Henning conical guide rod and heavier recoil spring.

Wow. I knew that it could be challenging to make the poly compact run right but I hadn't heard of them breaking. Does anyone know how common a problem it might be?


I think most where only focusing on the recoil spring. I was going to try the heavier recoil spring in conjunction with a heavier magazine spring, but the slide guide broke before I could. I am not saying that my experience is an way typical. Witness' have a great record, but the Polymer Compact Carry has always been a horse of a different color. Like I said, I was still willing to try a Compact Carry, I was just going to use a Steel one. The reason I decided to go to the GP was that it had a CNC insert and I was hoping that it would be stronger. So far it has run great, but had I been unable to get a GP I would have kept working with the Compact Carry or a regular Carry.