Interesting upcoming release of the G2 carry gun product line from Vista Outdoors. I've watched some older videos(3-4 years back) done by Ammo Quest, and the Speer G2 didn't look terribly amazing. They are saying if I understand correctly, Vista engineer's have combined the best of the HST and the Gold Dot, thus creating the G2 Carry Gun series...Time will tell, plus they are very expensive
Thanks

Ken


https://www.guns.com/news/2020/02/07/speer-launches-ammo-designed-for-carry-guns

https://youtu.be/CeVtwmHeRZQ

The vid certainly didn't speak very highly of them. Out of his 3" 9mm he called it a fail as he did for the 4" barrel. From what I gleaned from the vid, the bullet has to stay 1000'ps or expect a fail. Considering the load and the velocities he was getting from his chronograph, the loading is wrong for the bullet. They need to some how put the bean counters in the backseat and load this ammo with something that will give the ammo the velocity it needs.

Thanks Trapper, it is possible the new "carry gun" ammo from Speer is improved / hotter, as the video that I attached was 4 years old as  mentioned.
Thanks man!

Ken

That video was from the first release of the 147gr that Speer recalled do to perfoemance issues.

Lol, stands to reason, Thanks 5Pins!

Honestly I don't think the G2 was ever perfected. Most agree it still performs worse than regular gold dots. Speer tweaked the initial run from dismal performance to "ok" performance and seemed to have called it good and left it at that. Expansion is hit or miss, auto glass penetration is poor, results are inconsistent through everything. Most agencies that adopted it dropped it. Honestly I'm surprised Speer hasn't discontinued the line until they can get it right- it's a tarnish to their track record that makes you wonder about their current quality. I bet they changed nothing on the personal protection variant and just decided to market it to the public in small boxes since it was such a flop with government contracts.

Pretty sure your right on the money