Razor Dobbs takes Cape Buffalo with 10mm Dan Wesson Razorback & Double Tap 200gr WFN Hardcast. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sZBVnquaLXM#fauxfullscreen

And I noticed the BIG backup gun.... no problem then when it's pissed off and comes at you 

Not impressed at all. Vids like this and hunting like this is what the "anti's" are looking for- a moron with a gun. There's a reason there is a BIG gun as a back up. If you notice, the backup gun wasn't a Ruger 10/22. You need a big gun to kill big animals. No pistol is ever going to be the right choice for a firearm when hunting these large dangerous animals. Responsible hunting means you're going to put the animal down ASAP. It obviously didn't happen in this vid. I look for this going viral and it won't be doing our hunting rights any good.

Quote from: Trapper6L on December 17 2018 03:27:14 PM MST
Not impressed at all. Vids like this and hunting like this is what the "anti's" are looking for- a moron with a gun. There's a reason there is a BIG gun as a back up. If you notice, the backup gun wasn't a Ruger 10/22. You need a big gun to kill big animals. No pistol is ever going to be the right choice for a firearm when hunting these large dangerous animals. Responsible hunting means you're going to put the animal down ASAP. It obviously didn't happen in this vid. I look for this going viral and it won't be doing our hunting rights any good.

With all due respect sir; couldn't disagree with you more.  However, to each their own. 

I couldn't care less what the snowflake "anti's" like or don't like.  Nothing you say or do is ever going to please them until you're completely disarmed and eating vegan food (after all global warming is seriously contributed to by methane gas flatulence from cattle didn't you know).   

He took the bull legally and no doubt paid out the nose for the licensing and permitting necessary to harvest game in Africa.  Hunters willingness to pay huge sums of money for privilege to hunt wild game in Africa contributes greatly to the establishment of wild game preserves on that impoverished continent.  Many more of those animals would have been poached out of existence if not for hunters but try explaining that to an "anti" someday.  No shortage of sanctimonious people along the entire spectrum whose prescribed perspective leaves no room on the moral high ground for any opinion or beyond their own.   
   
Every Cape Buffalo hunt you've ever seen had a guild standing beside the hunter (regardless of hunter's weapon of choice; firearm or bow and arrow) holding a large bore back-up rifle.  Putting a powerful Cape Buffalo Bull down inside a 100 yards with any caliber (which he is purported to do in this video) short of a 50cal is quite a feat of marksmanship with almost any caliber (rifle or other) IMHO.  Seen lots and lots of Cape Buffalo hunts with serious artillery that couldn't get the job done.  Another example of importance of shot placement.   They're tough as hell and earned their nickname honestly.

Been a bit of conversation lately; and even on this forum about the 10mm's suitability for defensive situations against dangerous game.  Personally found the video interesting in that context.  When utilized appropriately with proper ammunition, personally think 10mm auto is a viable self defense option anywhere in the contiguous US. 

For me it's about fair chase and an immediate death to the animal. Trying to see what a weapon will do does not fit within the fair chase ethic. Hunters that encourage or defend such a practice show by their proponent for or defense of that they are definitely not of the fair chase ethic. The fair chase ethic has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with what is right and honorable.


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For me, this falls in the -just because you can, doesn't mean you should- category. Always carry enough gun to take down the animal as fast as possible. Better for them, better for you.

As far as the anti's go, I couldn't care less what they think. I also wouldn't give them any more fuel for their argument.

Great video.  The 10mm Double Tap load is not all that hot so I wonder if Razor's loads were custom made to Underwood standards.  In any case we do know the 200 gr WFN will penetrate a long long way. 

Personally I think taking a Cape Buff is over the top for a 10 mm but I'd rather us it than an arrow. 

Great video. For the naysayers what would a bigger gun have done that would have made it any more effective than what the 10 did? I have killed deer with a 22lr, and had some get away with a 45/70 hole in them. No I don't advocate hunting deer with a 22 but with proper shot placement they can be effective.  Shot placement most important aspect of hunting.

Quote from: Bakerby on December 20 2018 05:16:25 PM MST
Great video. For the naysayers what would a bigger gun have done that would have made it any more effective than what the 10 did? I have killed deer with a 22lr, and had some get away with a 45/70 hole in them. No I don't advocate hunting deer with a 22 but with proper shot placement they can be effective.  Shot placement most important aspect of hunting.

A real african dangerous game caliber rifle doesn't guarantee anything. It does increase the odds that the hunter, PH, and trackers don't get stomped into paste. Personally, I wouldn't put anyone else in greater danger, or risk losing a wounded animal just to prove a point. Which is all this video was.

I would bet I could put a copper solid 22-250 right through a cape buffalo's brain at 100yds, with a good rest. Would I try? Of course not. This is the same sort of thing.

A backup shooter is no guarantee either. A real good bud of mine was a world known hunter. He had all of the big game African trophies and then he got the idea that doing it again but with a bow. Long story short, he made a great shot on a lion but it didn't kill the lion. The lion charged. The two backup double rifles started going off. The first 4 shots hit nothing but their Jeep as my bud was crawling under the bench seat in the back of the open Jeep.  The lion was busy trying to drag him out by his arm that he had hooked with a claw. The 5th shot finished the lion. But both shooters almost killed my bud in their haste. My bud was in the hospital for 2 weeks from the event. Then you have a canned lion hunt here in Texas that went bad. A hunter wounded a big male lion. So 4 experienced big game hunters went into the pasture to find the lion to put it down. They all had the big double rifles. They found the lion and jumped him several times before the lion charged at a full bore run. All of the "experienced" big game hunters started shooting, none landed a hit. As they reloaded, the lion was less than 25 yds and they again started shooting almost shooting each other. The lion had singled out one guy and he finally brain shot the lion which fell on him and knocked him smooth out. So much for any "backup" shooters to finish off any game that might otherwise be wounded by a stunt like this. Just because you can doesn't make it right. Unfortunately, my bud didn't learn much from his lion hunt. He then went after a polar bear with a bow. They found a bear by plane, landed a few miles away only to have the bear come straight to them. He almost got to kiss the bear at the top of a snow bank. Thankfully, his wife said that was enough bow hunting. After the bear hunt, he was adamant about using enough weapon for any game, dangerous or not.

South Texas has a lot of ranches that are owned by rich morons from Houston. They bring in all kinds of African game and then turn them loose on cattle fenced pastures. Consequently we have all kinds of African game running loose all over. We even have a herd of Bison that have been free roaming for several years now. Can't believe the damage they do to a ranch. We occasionally have water buffalo, nilgai, giraffe, etc come thru the ranch. So we've hunted these animals only didn't have to pay huge money to do so. It takes a lot of gun to humanely drop one of them. A 10mm pistol cartridge isn't it.

This thread is the perfect example of the gullibility of the everyday person. You have some idiot decides he wants to shoot a Cape buffalo with a 10MM. He succeeded in the task,  but I am guessing the show was saved in the editing room.

ge money to do so. It takes a lot of gun to humanely drop one of them. A 10mm pistol cartridge isn't it.

But yet it was enough gun....very humane kill, heart shot. wouldnt have made any difference if he would have used a bigger gun same result and most likely same time frame to its death. I just don't see the problem, but to each his own. I like to push the envelope myself, I never take a shot unless I am confident it will result in an animals certain death, and quick one at that. Not you cup of tea...that's cool but don't call the guy an idiot....a little weird maybe.

Here are some better word I guess to describe it: Moronic, Stupid, Ill Advised etc. on next weeks episode he will try to kill a grizzly Bear with a BB Gun. People like him are the reason that people hate gun ownership.

Quote from: Chefgerg on December 22 2018 10:00:22 AM MST
Here are some better word I guess to describe it: Moronic, Stupid, Ill Advised etc. on next weeks episode he will try to kill a grizzly Bear with a BB Gun. People like him are the reason that people hate gun ownership.

Repetition doesn't necessarily make your perspective more persuasive. 
You don't agree with the wisdom?  Great, you keep hunting the way you choose.  You do you. 
Can't speak for the "everyday people" you know but you'll likely find folks around this forum aren't nearly as gullible as you seem to think. 

Personally find the Hunter to be an odd duck no doubt; but regardless of your view, the dude has successfully harvesting more large game with his 10mm auto than anyone else.  He has taken Nilgai, Wildebeast, Elk, multiple Whitetail, Wild Boar and now Cape Buffalo with his 10mm.  Not to mention countless other dangerous game animals from around the world with rifles and bows.  So he appears to have some knowledge about what he's doing.  Many of us can respect his exploits without any interest in emulating them.  Hell no, I personally would not hunt a Cape Buffalo with a 10mm.  It would be a once in a lifetime opportunity for someone like me and I'd have the most powerful African dangerous game rifle I could shoot accurately and carry.  Along with a PH or two with back up rifles (I'd also make damn sure my will was in a safe place and my affairs were in order before heading out too). By the way, people hunt Grizzly with bow & arrow and I for one won't be hunting dangerous bears with that method either.  It strikes me as "ill advised" as well but in life "you pays you money and you takes your chances."

He actually has killed two buffalo successfully, both heart shots. As far as him being stupid, or an idiot he is making huge amounts of money doing what he loves, he is very successful, if you read his blogs the dude is very knowledgeable about hunting and ballistics and seems to understand the limits of the round. Is he crazy yeah.....but it makes for a fun show. I mean if all you are gonna do is call folks names what is your point. You wanna debate why you disagree with his hunt I for one will listen...we will prob disagree but that is cool.