Thoughts on the RIA Tactical Ultra MS 4.25-inch 8Rds 10mm

Started by Kenk, July 31 2018 05:11:09 AM MDT

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Quote from: Overkill338 on November 13 2018 12:14:34 PM MST
I've been shooting RIA 1911's for years at my friends gun shop. They shoot great. But he had one, if you let the trigger down to decock it, the hammer would hang up so little you couldnt tell it. While in a holster, the hammer dropped the rest of the way, and the gun went off. No one was hurt and RIA fixed it. I just wont own one.

That being said, I wish Colt would make a Commander size Delta Elite!

This is not unique to RIA.  Every single series 70 1911 I own will do this.  I don't know if they will fire or not.

And this is why a 1911 should never be placed in condition 2.  Condition 3 or condition 1 are both well proven and perfectly safe.  Condition 2 is also well proven...well proven as unsafe.

Overkill338

Quote from: sqlbullet on November 14 2018 08:11:11 AM MST
Quote from: Overkill338 on November 13 2018 12:14:34 PM MST
I've been shooting RIA 1911's for years at my friends gun shop. They shoot great. But he had one, if you let the trigger down to decock it, the hammer would hang up so little you couldnt tell it. While in a holster, the hammer dropped the rest of the way, and the gun went off. No one was hurt and RIA fixed it. I just wont own one.

That being said, I wish Colt would make a Commander size Delta Elite!

This is not unique to RIA.  Every single series 70 1911 I own will do this.  I don't know if they will fire or not.

And this is why a 1911 should never be placed in condition 2.  Condition 3 or condition 1 are both well proven and perfectly safe.  Condition 2 is also well proven...well proven as unsafe.

Yeah, I wasnt there when it happened. I always kept my 1911s cocked and locked. Is there any other way?
Don't hate all of us Virginians. Not all of us voted for Ridiculous Ralph Blackface

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Ray F.

Quote from: Bruno747 on September 22 2018 05:23:55 PM MDT
I had one of the commanders.

Just be patient, from the reviews I have read, my experience, and videos, the few of these that are running out of the box are unicorns, fully expect it to not run worth a crap to start. What you do from that point forward is up to you. It took me several iterations of things including sending mine back to get it running right.

I believe mine was the 51994 model. There are posts from me detailing everything I needed to do to get mine to run reliably and it was a decent amount of work. Utimately I let it go because I never could find a holster that fit it well and my dan wesson ran so much better with so much less work.

Also now that I no longer have it and am no longer enamored with it, I can honestly say it had bar none, the most ghastly barrel I have ever seen on a gun EVER. If it was used when I got it I would have thought someone sorely mistreated it from what that barrel looked like inside and would have passed.
I'm going through this now with my RIA MS 10mm.  I'm not trashing RIA.  In the past 6 months, I've had to send 1 S&W and 2 brand new Rugers back to the companies for QA issues.  It seems as if the current industry standard is having stuff returned is more lucrative than comprehensive Quality Assurance before it leaves the factory.  But I digress.....

Within 20 rounds, my RIA had a binding trigger, spent-round stove pipes, live-round stove pipes, 3-point jams and hammer follow (to half-cock).  To be honest, I was so disappointed with sending other guns back and waiting, I elected to give my RIA to a local 1911 guru.  According to him, the trigger bow was bent to lessen take up and the sear had a negative angle cut into it.  He corrected those issues and performed an action job. 

Having lurked here and read Bruno's fixes (among others), I then tuned/polished the extractor and breech face, chamfered and polished the hood/chamber, polished the ramp, installed a flat-bottomed firing pin  installed a 26lbs mainspring, and tried a 22lbs recoil spring.  It worked pretty well for about 30 rounds before it had a failure to return to full battery.  I replaced the 22lbs recoil spring with a 24lbs recoil spring, loaded up some more 200gr coated LCTFPs over 11.8gr of AA9 in virgin brass and went back to the range.

After 8 rounds, I dropped the empty mag and just happened to check for hammer follow and the hammer followed the slide all the way to the firing pin.  I then tore the gun down and noticed the disconnect wasn't moving and the trigger travel was shortened.  Apparently, I broke it, so I dropped it off to the guru this morning.  I have a feeling a Wilson or Ed Brown hammer, sear and disconnect are in my future.     

Ray F.

Update:  The gunsmith said the frame was interfering with the disconnect.  The frame looked fine, but the disconnect was a few degrees off, causing it to fail to function.  Never heard of that one.  He replaced the disconnect with a Wilson.  We shall see.

Road_Clam

While I don't own a RIA , I did handle a few years ago when shopping for my first 1911 platform. I specifically was looking for a match grade 1911 chambered in 9mm. I wanted a smooth and mild alloy / steel framed platform to also get my wife involved into handgun. I handled RIA'a , Taurus , SA , and Sig. When all the smoke cleared I went with the SA RO 9mm . Think I payed $725 back in 2015. The SA's are a great compromise of awesome quality and cost value. The RIA's and Taurus felt not "cheap" but just looked and felt of lesser quality. Just recently I bought the Kimber Target II 10mm and side by side against my SA I'd say that the Kimber is just a bit above the SA in build quality, but I also payed $940 for the Kimber.


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