Another  attack which didn't end so well:

https://buckrail.com/two-elk-hunters-attacked-by-bears-guide-still-missing/

Said the hunter didn't shoot for fear of hitting the guide I believe. Then tossed the gun to the guide. Seems strange..

Quote from: 4949shooter on September 16 2018 04:17:39 AM MDT
Said the hunter didn't shoot for fear of hitting the guide I believe. Then tossed the gun to the guide. Seems strange..

Wow 4949shooter, hadn't seen that one.

While I can think of couple relatively recent examples of bear attacks where the companion used a firearm to shoot at an attacking bear only to hit the mauling victim (2011 Montana mauling victim died as result of shot, 2014 BC mauling victim was hit but survived).... 
If I'm ever being mauled by a big ass bear; friends you have my leave and in fact are highly encouraged to shoot it! . I would certainly appreciate maximum concentration, focus and skill but shoot it! 
Dude throws his unfired pistol in the direction of the  other mauling victim then high tails it out.of the area....  Noted the surviving hunter's name (took search teams more than a day to find victims remains).  Might seem cold but after this story, seriously doubt I'd be inclined to even go dove hunting with a dude woven with that level of intestinal fortitude & fiber. 

As Jerry Clower said: "Shoot in here amongst us!  One of us has got to have some relief!"   

I read a book about the Great White Hunters in Africa and it was interesting that more were killed or forced to retire by errant gun shots than by beasties.

Quote from: Rick R on September 16 2018 08:29:07 AM MDT
As Jerry Clower said: "Shoot in here amongst us!  One of us has got to have some relief!"   

I read a book about the Great White Hunters in Africa and it was interesting that more were killed or forced to retire by errant gun shots than by beasties.

My thoughts exactly, Rojo..

Up here in Montana gun shot = dinner bell for Griz during hunting season not uncommon for them to be on a kill in an hr. I keep my rifle in reach while dressing out game while one of us keeps an eye out.


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Quote from: 38-40 on September 16 2018 05:52:57 PM MDT
Up here in Montana gun shot = dinner bell for Griz during hunting season not uncommon for them to be on a kill in an hr. I keep my rifle in reach while dressing out game while one of us keeps an eye out.


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Maybe keeping a handgun on one's person would have helped in the above case. The separated backpack is not a good spot to keep it while gutting game in griz country.

Quote from: 4949shooter on September 16 2018 05:57:19 PM MDT

Quote from: 38-40 on September 16 2018 05:52:57 PM MDT
Up here in Montana gun shot = dinner bell for Griz during hunting season not uncommon for them to be on a kill in an hr. I keep my rifle in reach while dressing out game while one of us keeps an eye out.


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Maybe keeping a handgun on one's person would have helped in the above case. The separated backpack is not a good spot to keep it while gutting game in griz country.

I agree but 35 Whelen hits harder than any 44 mag


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On the hip or chest for sure, should never ever be out of reach

...I though the funniest part of the NM story was when the guy was jumping from bolder 2 to 3 and the dogs passed him...guess he knew where the bear was at that point...

What is sad about the elk hunters is that guide didn't have the mindset of having a backup gun himself... A friend went to Montana elk hunting last year and his guide also told him that he didn't think my friend needed to carry a backup gun as he never did... my friend brought his G29...just in case.

As to the client who tossed his gun to the guide who was being attacked...what is said, cowards die a thousand deaths, a brave man just once. The problem of course is that the coward just gets to continue to walk among us...

Bob

Seems like a good idea to have a designated spotter when dressing out a critter in bear country

Quote from: Kenk on September 18 2018 06:28:50 AM MDT
Seems like a good idea to have a designated spotter when dressing out a critter in bear country

I suspect a lot of guides will be doing that from this point forward!

Totally, fresh critter blood in the air, gosh, you should almost expect the big boy will come looking

New update on the Montana bear attach fatality, and thrown pistol story......

Clear as mud but we do have a new element about bear spray being deployed but not stopping the attack. 

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/09/bear-spray-failure-at-mark-uptain-fatal-grizzly-attack/#axzz5RbdrXJMt

Yea, I'm sure bears, as with humans, all have different dispositions, Some May have such a strong drive, Bear spray is is just a minor inconvenience they are willing to endure

If I'm not mistaken the percentage of capsaicin was reduced several years ago seems like I had a can that was 10% now its 3%. Anyone else recall this?


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