Quote from: gandog56 on June 26 2018 02:13:33 PM MDT

Quote from: SHOOT1SAM on June 25 2018 08:38:13 PM MDT

Quote from: 14 GT-500 on May 13 2018 08:50:04 AM MDT
...Kimber and all the other fine 1911s being made for the 10mm, thats what got me into it 

My answer to the OP's question would be this: Kimber.

Colt convinced the FBI, and Glock kept it alive, but it sure seems to me that when Kimber released their Stainless Target Model in 10mm, THIS is what started the long, slow revival of the 10mm.  IIRC, Kimber followed it up with the Eclipse model, and it was shortly after this that Dan Wesson & others began chambering pistols in our beloved caliber, which eventually led to today, with more 10mm handguns available than ever before.

Sam

As much as I hate to say it, not being a Glock lover, is Glock did way more than just "keep it alive'. As far as I know, for a while they were the ONLY ones who still even made one.If it wasn't for them, you probably could hardly even find any commercial manufacturers of 10mm ammo.
Still, I just hate how a Glock even feels in my hand. But that;'s just a personal opinion. They feel good in yours, they are a good option, and almost the cheapest way to get a new 10mm. Kimbers are just too much for many average Joes.

Appreciate your honesty gandog. I fully agree that Glocks aren't for everyone, and I can appreciate the fact that you can acknowledge their contribution to the 10mm world.

Not a fan of the funny looking plastic guns with the goofy looking triggers either,(not that I don't believe that they are some of the most reliable handguns ever made) but don't give them TOO much credit for keeping the 1cm alive. Once the round was put into service by law enforcement there were enough guns around to keep it on life support. Changing ammo technology making more effective and more powerful ammunition has come down to the real reason it's making a comeback. Purely a matter of horsepower. Aside from more obscure calibers like 40 super and 9x25 Dillon it's the biggest baddest round useful in a "normal" semi-auto. In these times of pony cars approaching 1000 HP it's pretty apparent that there are a lot of folks that don't necessarily look for the minimum to get the job done. Long live 10mm!

Been following this thread and all the interesting perspectives on this topic. 

While I think there are a multitude of contributing factors but I'd have to cast my lot with Gandog56, 4949shooter and others who've pointed to the Glock 20.  As so many have noted, it's anything but a beauty to behold.  However, it was for a significant period of time in my view the primary mainstream producer of reliable 10mm pistols.  While some may look down their nose at the G20, it was a very reasonably priced vehicle to introduce people to the caliber.  There was a lot of talk for 10 or 15 years that 10mm was dead man walking.  Very different equation for new people interested in the 10mm to invest  $500 bucks into a caliber that looked like it might dry up and blow away vs. $1,300 to $2,500 for a high end 1911.  The G20's comparably modest entry cost gave those like me, who clearly remembered the fanfare and adulation of the 10mm's birth, ascendency then near extinction but while always remained interested, for whatever reason never seriously took it for a spin.  In my mind, it was the bridge for many, many shooters.  Once I knew I really, really enjoyed the caliber and was committed to sticking with it; absolutely there were higher end, sexier, more pleasing models I wanted to incorporate into my collection.  However, for the applications and the roles I rely on the G20 for, there still isn't a better tool. 

Quote from: Rojo27 on June 26 2018 09:03:44 PM MDT
Been following this thread and all the interesting perspectives on this topic. 

While I think there are a multitude of contributing factors but I'd have to cast my lot with Gandog56, 4949shooter and others who've pointed to the Glock 20.  As so many have noted, it's anything but a beauty to behold.  However, it was for a significant period of time in my view the primary mainstream producer of reliable 10mm pistols.  While some may look down their nose at the G20, it was a very reasonably priced vehicle to introduce people to the caliber.  There was a lot of talk for 10 or 15 years that 10mm was dead man walking.  Very different equation for new people interested in the 10mm to invest  $500 bucks into a caliber that looked like it might dry up and blow away vs. $1,300 to $2,500 for a high end 1911.  The G20's comparably modest entry cost gave those like me, who clearly remembered the fanfare and adulation of the 10mm's birth, ascendency then near extinction but while always remained interested, for whatever reason never seriously took it for a spin.  In my mind, it was the bridge for many, many shooters.  Once I knew I really, really enjoyed the caliber and was committed to sticking with it; absolutely there were higher end, sexier, more pleasing models I wanted to incorporate into my collection.  However, for the applications and the roles I rely on the G20 for, there still isn't a better tool.

I agree completely and concur that spending big money on pistols isn't something everyone will do. (<me).
I understand the desire to have a very nice all steel weapon.
For me reliablabilty, robust, lower cost, and lighter weight answers more of my needs than other platforms.

Initially I wasn't a big fan of the G20 (price lured me in) due to grip size and overall slide width primarily.  After using it for a few months I'm now comfortable with the feel of the weapon in my hand and it's basic "flaws" have not stopped it from becoming a favorite to carry and shoot. 
It replaced my fathers WWII 1911 and my Ruger .41 mag Blackhawk as my daily field gun largely because of increased capacity.
Cheers!

I think the reason 10mm made such a comeback is because of its loyal fan base ... And gunmakers answering the "Need and want "

Quote from: SHOOT1SAM on June 25 2018 08:38:13 PM MDT
...and Glock kept it alive...

Sam

Quote from: gandog56 on June 26 2018 02:13:33 PM MDT
As much as I hate to say it, not being a Glock lover, is Glock did way more than just "keep it alive'. As far as I know, for a while they were the ONLY ones who still even made one....

Um, pretty sure that's what I said... 

Sam

Ahhh, but that doesn't mean I ever OWNED one! I appreciate the way Glock kept 10mm viable, but they still never made a Glock that felt good in my small fat fingered hand. The only double stack 10 I have is an EAA Witness. I can BARELY get my hand around that double stack grip. But the grip angle of the EAA is more to my liking than the Glock's.

Now Glock double stack magazines, I have a pile of. But only because my TNW Aero 10mm carbine uses them. I ain't trying to fit my hand around them. I have a nice pistol grip BEHIND the magazine.

That's a nice rifle Gandog. Could you post some more pics of it?

As others have mentioned.. I feel that Glock , helped keep the 10mm alive .. With the 20 & 29 ,,, which I own both ...Also ammo manufacturers like Underwood that load the 10mm to its full potential..
The 10mm is a fine cartdridge... And so many others are finally figured it out ..

Quote from: my_old_glock on May 25 2018 01:01:52 PM MDT

Quote from: blaster on April 21 2018 04:28:20 PM MDT
I just wish that 10mm brass didn't fly so far! or I wish it was as popular as .45 or 9mm and there was lots of brass to be picked up. [emoji6] having to buy brass for reloading really increases my ammo costs.

http://10mm-firearms.com/general-discussion/40-sw-deep-throat/

Quote from: The_Shadow on May 09 2018 05:30:15 PM MDT
I see Glock's continued supply of models chambered for 10mm as a positive for the continuation the 10mm cartridge/ammunition as an enthusiasts intro, for reasonably prices 10mm guns.  Glock's model 20 Sec Gen had been in production fairly early on and the updated models and generations that followed all played a roll in sustaining our favorite cartridge.  Glock 20, 29, 40 fill a good niche of the market with their platforms.

I would not own a 10mm if it wasn't for Glock. I have no desire to own any other 10mm guns except maybe an AR Carbine or a revolver, but I don't want to pay a lot for either, so I will not be getting one anytime soon.



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I can't remember what drew me to the 10mm but the first one I bought was a G29 in 2007 to use as my primary carry weapon. They've bred in my safe and I now have a G20 and a G20 long slide. I love my Glock 10mms. I don't understand the hate for them. They were definitely a key player in it not falling off into obscurity.

I also have a Dan Wesson CBOB in 10mm and am waiting for my RI Ultra FS HC to come in from Buds.

I will probably have Fusion build me a 6" long slide hunter sooner than later.

I also have a 10mm AR15 SBR.

I guess you could say I'm a fan.

EDIT: of course I'm going to have to get a Delta Elite just because. I'll get the railed model because I like railed 1911s. I have seriously contemplated whether to convert it to a ramped barrel as well so I don't have to worry about lack of chamber support whether just perception or reality.


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I do believe the Glocks were a huge factor in keeping the 10mm alive, along with the Delta Elite.

Now with the advent of the Glock model 40, we owe even more to this brand / platform in furthering the 10mm cause. The G40 will be my next Glock and next 10mm.

This is not to diminish the contribution of the other manufacturers in their efforts, including both gun and ammo manufacturers.

Absolutely, I have the G40 on my list as well : )

Quote from: 4949shooter on July 05 2018 08:14:43 PM MDT
That's a nice rifle Gandog. Could you post some more pics of it?

Out in my reloading shed, and it's pouring rain right now. Maybe later if I remember. Anything you want a pic of in particular?

Quote from: gandog56 on July 17 2018 01:43:49 PM MDT

Quote from: 4949shooter on July 05 2018 08:14:43 PM MDT
That's a nice rifle Gandog. Could you post some more pics of it?

Out in my reloading shed, and it's pouring rain right now. Maybe later if I remember. Anything you want a pic of in particular?

Anything else you might have of it. If you don't then no big deal.

Interesting rifle / carbine for sure. Got my interest.

Just found a video of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi2niK5OQCE