Hi-Point second impression

Started by 10mm4ever, April 29 2018 05:21:55 PM MDT

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10mm4ever

Here's my second impression of the Hi-Point 1095TS carbine, as far as stripping and cleaning goes, this is not a military firearm, there are to many steps and parts to remove. It's not to difficult, seeing as I am not in any military organization and I am not a armchair operator, the stripping procedure doesn't bother me. Now for the first range report, I didn't put a lot of rounds through it, as I was working up some upper end loads. Hot for me as I just a chronograph for Christmas. I shot the same loads through my Sig P220 as a control to base my results against. I didn't take time to figure extreme spread or deviation as this was my first using a chronograph CED M2. Both firearms functioned flawlessly.
1) Sig P220
   Sig 180gr. FMJ
   1221fps.
   1212fps.
   1206fps.
   1228fps.
   1218fps.
1.2) H/P 1095
    Sig 180gr. FMJ
   1405fps.
   1391fps.
   1401fps.
   1369fps.
   1372fps.
2) Sig P220
    Berry's plated 180gr./ 4.7grs. Bullseye volume measured by Hornady lock n load.
    899fps.
    936fps.
    947fps.
    947fps.
    947fps.
2.2) Hi-Point 1095
    Berry's plated same load.
    1114fps.
    1065fps.
    1068fps.
    1095fps.
    1055fps.
3) Sig P220
    Gallant bullets 180gr. Powder coated/ 9.0grs. 800X hand weighed +/- 0 grs.
    1315fps.
    1313fps.
    1313fps.
    1301fps.
    1320fps.
3.2) Hi-Point 1095
    Gallant bullets 180gr. Same load
    1558fps.
    1552fps.
    1525fps.
    1583fps.
    1514fps.
4) Sig P220
    Rainier plated 180gr. HP/ 9.0grs. 800X
    1311fps.
    1305fps.
    1272fps.
    1313fps.
4.2) Hi-Point 1095
    Rainier 180gr. Same load
    1478fps.
    1490fps.
    1541fps.
    1510fps.
    1442fps.
5) Sig P220
    Gallant 180gr. Powder coated/ 9.0grs. Power Pistol
    1307fps.
    1315fps.
    1332fps.
    1300fps.
    1295fps.
5.2) Hi-Point 1095
    Gallant 180gr. Same load
    1519fps.
    1501fps.
    1512fps.
    1487fps.
    1500fps.
6) Sig P220
    Rainier plated 180gr. HP/ 9.0grs. Power Pistol
    1265fps.
    1281fps.
    1292fps.
    1279fps.
    1281fps.
6.2) Hi-Point 1095
    Rainier 180gr. Same load
    1772fps. (Error I think)
    1432fps.
    1420fps.
    1419fps.
    1388fps.
I don't know what happened with the 1772fps. Shot all loads were hand weighed. I was aiming for 1250fps. Out of a pistol load, I think this is about as hot as I should load plated and powder coated bullets. The Sig looks a little more consistent. The target was set up at 10yds. The chronograph was set up at 10ft. When I paid attention the 1095 was shooting 1 hole @ 10yds. The next time I will test for accuracy at realistic carbine ranges, with a red dot and optics. Thanks for reading, it's been lengthy
   

Hamopr

Thanks for your extensive report. Any negatives with the gun other than difficulty to strip?
Nick Marsh
USAF 1969 - 1973
NRA Life Member

10mm4ever

The trigger needs help, when I scaled the trigger I held the hook of the scale on tip of the trigger, it gave a false impression of the trigger pull. I am going to replace the trigger with a flat one with adjustable overtravel. It has quite a bit of overtravel. I didn't expect a Ed Brown trigger pull on a $340 gun, I think there is room for improvement. Overall I think it is performing well, I don't usually put just 10 rounds of factory ammo through a new gun and then start feeding it handloads. It should have choked on my slow loads, those came out of my Glock from before I started doing push through sizing. The Glock smiles can make my tighter guns choke. The feed ramp could use polishing, it hasn't affected feeding, just needs polishing, and you asked. And I am trying to give a accurate, unbiased review. I have seen nothing that's a deal breaker. Yes I would like a D/I AR style also. I really wanted to break my prejudice about blowback 10mm carbines.

Bat Rastard

Any problems with plated bullets going that fast?
My neighbors dog has been telling me some very disturbing things lately. I just ignore him because everybody knows that dog is crazy.

10mm4ever

Quote from: Bat Rastard on May 11 2018 05:11:51 AM MDT
Any problems with plated bullets going that fast?
I didn't see any trouble running over the chrony, I'll have to try some for accuracy, and shoot some into wet news print to see how they hold up.

SHOOT1SAM

#5
I have the 9mm carbine-the trigger improved DRAMATICALLY, after 100-125 rounds.  Hopefully yours will too.

Sam

10mm4ever

I'm surprised the 1095 isn't gaining much traction here, it's such a simple design and mine is working so well. I think we should take up a collection and buy a 1095 for azcrawler, in appreciation for for warning us about Tactical Edge. It really changed my thinking about Hi-Point

Buckeye63

I just ordered a 1095 from KYGUNCO yesterday... With the velocity boost from the carbine barrel it makes it a true utility carbine ... Im on waiting for Hipoint to get caught up on the 10mm mag orders ..
I heard they can barely keep up with the demand for the 1095 ... A LGS here in town had 15 to arrive and in two days all were gone ... Seems like Hawg hunters are swooping them up ...

mt10mm

I have about 200rds through mine and have decided I hate the stock. The dumb sticky cheek piece thing hurts my face every time I pull the trigger. Think I'm going to remove it completely and figure out something better.

Ramjet

#9
I just picked one of these up yesterday it fired many rounds no problems with feeding. I ran RN cast through 210 grain WFN cast and many versions of jacketed. 100 rounds total.

first impressions;

Lots of mass in the bolt so it wacks you when it comes back.  (Kriss Vector does the same thing. ) Remedy is mounting a red dot higher and the connection to your face is more along the lines of a our jaw. The issue now is the weird is just under the eye orbital bone and that gets smacked every time the bolt comes back. Easy fix. p

The sights suck too low for my fat head. Ultra Dot on order to replace the irons.

It seems to be plenty accurate I can say more once I Get the Ultradot mounted.

Inexpensive what more can you say a 10mm carbine for such a low cost that is a good thing. This may end making a really nice truck gun.

So overall good little gun fun to play around with and great price point.

Buckeye63

Thanks for posting your velocity tests ...
I really like my 1095TS .. I ran some 200gr PMC TMJ through it last night ... @ 50yds .. It hit where I aimed ... Im hoping to get a ground hog with it this weekend...

Ramjet

The one I have seems to have preference for cast over jacketed bullets. Jacketed are not very accurate but when I run cast it tightens right up. I had a bunch of the 155 grain RN Lasercast loaded up it really likes those bullets. For serious work I prefer my Kriss vector but this is fun little gun to play around with. Worth the price point for sure.

dred

Quote from: mt10mm on June 16 2018 06:49:45 PM MDT
I have about 200rds through mine and have decided I hate the stock. The dumb sticky cheek piece thing hurts my face every time I pull the trigger. Think I'm going to remove it completely and figure out something better.

I like bullpups.  High Tower Armory has released a bullpup stock.



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