Would you use Buffalo Bore ammo?

Started by Trailrunner, March 13 2017 12:50:55 PM MDT

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PCFlorida

Yep, I know that routine. My first apartment was small. I loaded with a square deal clamped to the kitchen table. Gotta do what you gotta do :)
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erikk

Quote from: PCFlorida on April 07 2017 06:39:41 PM MDT
I wouldn't use BB or UW. I can load cheaper and better and have full faith in my loads.
Me 2   I haven't bought ammo other than 22's in 7  decades  ;D
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Rojo27

+1 of the members who've added the Wolf 21# spring to G20 and confidently shoot Buffalo Bore, Underwood, Parabellum Research, Georgia Arms, etc. 

Planning a camping & hiking trip up in Wyoming & Montana area with sons in just a few weeks.  G20 and couple of magazines of BB & Underwood ammo are definitively part of the kit. 

Dave84

Probably want some nice hardcast for those areas.

Olgo

What are the advantage of the hardcast bullet?
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

The_Shadow

Typical cup and lead core bullets are made using soft lead so the deform as they encounter bone and in the case of hollow points the open peal and roll back with expansion.  The cast bullets can be soft but harder cast alloys can withstand quite a bit of impact with softer materials such as hide flesh and even bone therefore they can penetrate deeply and even completely pass through even larger animals.  Their MEPLAT makes for a larger surface area as their leading cutting edge followed by the actual bullet diameter and weight to do the work of deep tissue damage with their stored energy, breaking bones, joints, spines or even huge hard skulls.
Two holes help to bleed the animals out faster.  Retrieved hard cast bullets even shot into water jugs can show very little damage to the projectiles...

When you are considering a self defense ammo the risk of pass through and not dumping all of the energy into the perp becomes problematic.  Innocent bystanders could be struck with a pass through shot which increases the liability for criminal and civil law suits.
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Olgo

Seems not really much difference between hard cast and hard ball.
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

Ridgerunner665

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Quote from: Olgo on May 15 2017 04:52:43 PM MDT
Seems not really much difference between hard cast and hard ball.
The difference is in the terminal ballistics.... What happens inside the animal.

The wide flat meplat creates a much larger wound channel than a hardball (round nose or small flat point)...

The shape of a bullet can change everything.

Rojo27

Quote from: Dave84 on May 15 2017 02:35:17 PM MDT
Probably want some nice hardcast for those areas.

Very good counsel and I definitely will. 

Rojo27

Quote from: Ridgerunner665 on May 15 2017 04:59:08 PM MDT
Quote from: Olgo on May 15 2017 04:52:43 PM MDT
Seems not really much difference between hard cast and hard ball.
The difference is in the terminal ballistics.... What happens inside the animal.

The wide flat meplate creates a much larger wound channel than a hardball (round nose or small flat point)...

The shape of a bullet can change everything.

To expound on this point just a little:  as referenced bullet shape and composition make a tremendous difference in projectile intended for protection against large dangerous animals. 
Shadow & Ridgerunner as usual are dead on.  Ball ammo tends to push tissue aside and pencil through and being lead with a copper jacket can and often will deform or deflect when hitting strong enough bone.  Hardcast alloys with significant meplat (wide flat nose) "cut" and crush through flesh and bone and penitrate far deeper with significantly more damaging terminal ballistics than ball ammo.  Just google hardcast vs fmj for lots of tests illustrating this fact. 

Ten Ten

Quote from: Trailrunner on March 13 2017 12:50:55 PM MDT
Greetings all. I am a Glock 29 owner and I'm just back from a trip to Cabelas. Amongst other things I ended up purchasing two boxes of BB 180grn "Heavy" JHP. I have no experience with BB ammo but was just advised to "be careful" with BB 10mm as it runs very hot, possibly too hot. Can anyone confirm or deny? Thanks...

would not use it...

Olgo

I'd wait til I get the recoil spring set from Wolf, no less than 21#.
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

Overkill338

Im still running my stock G29 spring. Even with the Underwood ammo.  No signs of battering yet.
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Olgo

Quote from: Overkill338 on May 17 2017 12:54:50 PM MDT
Im still running my stock G29 spring. Even with the Underwood ammo.  No signs of battering yet.

You think it's not, trust me. The #21 spring/guide set from Wolff is $35. Very good investment for your G29 and your hand, trust me.
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

Overkill338

Quote from: Olgo on May 17 2017 01:44:18 PM MDT
Quote from: Overkill338 on May 17 2017 12:54:50 PM MDT
Im still running my stock G29 spring. Even with the Underwood ammo.  No signs of battering yet.


You think it's not, trust me. The #21 spring/guide set from Wolff is $35. Very good investment for your G29 and your hand, trust me.

I do trust your advice, very much. But it makes me very nervous messing with the RSA.
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