Dave's 9mm stopped 1 inch shy of Platts heart. His lung and chest cavity was filled with 1.4 liters of blood during the Autopsy. He was able to fight on with a collapsed lung. Some say Dove and Grogan would have survived if that bullet went one more inch.

Quote from: cwlongshot on December 08 2016 11:14:00 AM MST

Quote from: txbadge on December 03 2016 12:18:14 PM MST
Just curious as to why no one considers the 135 grain in 10mm.  It seems it's ballistics are above the old 357 mag 125 grain ballistics and that has an awesome track record.  I have my 10s loaded with 135 grain and have one mag of 135 and another of 180 XTPs for backup.

I like the 135g. BUT... I carry the 10(G29) thru the winter months as its larger and bulkier than I can conceal in a t shirt of summer. (But I prefer the gun) So its also a time when heavier cloths are worn by bad guys too. Under these conditions, I fear over expansion and under penetration.

BUT, I have dusted a couple coyotes from my mec tec using Nosler 135s and BLUE DOT powder at 1600+ fps and I can tell you expansion is VIOLENT!

I like a 155g in the 40 (HOT) and 165g+ in the 10MM with the lion share for carry going to 175/180g and hunting going 200gs.

CW

All I use for carry here in FL are the Underwood 135gr's out of my 29sf. 200gr hard cast in the woods out of my g40.
JB

Quote from: jbaker30 on December 22 2016 02:18:04 PM MST

Quote from: cwlongshot on December 08 2016 11:14:00 AM MST

Quote from: txbadge on December 03 2016 12:18:14 PM MST
Just curious as to why no one considers the 135 grain in 10mm.  It seems it's ballistics are above the old 357 mag 125 grain ballistics and that has an awesome track record.  I have my 10s loaded with 135 grain and have one mag of 135 and another of 180 XTPs for backup.

I like the 135g. BUT... I carry the 10(G29) thru the winter months as its larger and bulkier than I can conceal in a t shirt of summer. (But I prefer the gun) So its also a time when heavier cloths are worn by bad guys too. Under these conditions, I fear over expansion and under penetration.

BUT, I have dusted a couple coyotes from my mec tec using Nosler 135s and BLUE DOT powder at 1600+ fps and I can tell you expansion is VIOLENT!

I like a 155g in the 40 (HOT) and 165g+ in the 10MM with the lion share for carry going to 175/180g and hunting going 200gs.

CW

All I use for carry here in FL are the Underwood 135gr's out of my 29sf. 200gr hard cast in the woods out of my g40.
JB

I have used the 200 Hornadys too... just dont like the "looks" of the bullet... I know that means squat.

The dont seem any tougher then the 180's and when thats the case I will take the higher velocity.
I like 165 GD for expansion but push it too much and it dosent want to hold together **.

CW

EDIT:  **From a 16" barrel.

Recently I shot some Federal 180 grain trophy bonded JSP rounds those seem to hit pretty darn hard and stay fast. It seems that these would do decent penetration in just about anything. video on YouTube show them doing about 16 a half to 17 inches of penetration. This might not be a bad  self-defense load. It carries I think about 650 foot pounds energy.

Anyone chrono the underwood 165 and the federal JSP out of a stock barrel Glock 29?

Ive been looking over this thread quite a bit ...being I have a 29 .. I picked UW 180gr Gold Dots & UW 200gr XTP .. they both seem to be great performers and both are pegging 10mm full potential.....
Im looking at Sig 180gr HP as my reduced SD load .. and its still produces much more energy than a 40 S&W from a 23

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Right now my Glock 29 is loaded with Underwood 180 gr. Delta Elite load 1240 fps, the Gold Dot version.