Sources of 10mm, 220 grain hard cast bullets?

Started by Frag Nasty, June 19 2016 05:02:08 PM MDT

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Benchrst

Not that I'm aware of. 220 doesn't leave a whole lotta room for powder if you stick to saami max oal.

You could always swage down a 41 cal :)
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Taterhead

I haven't checked for a while, but Double Tap once did sell the 230 gr WFNGC  bullet in component form that, I believe, weighed closer to 220 gr.

lancer 49

snscasting .com has coated and uncoated 220gr. in quantity and sample packs

jazzsax8

http://www.selwayarmory.com/rim-rock-bullets-10mm-401-220-gr-flat-point-box-of-500.html

I think some of the loaders used these Rim Rocks in the past.  I bought 1000 of them and they lead both the Glock and KKM barrels badly.  They are .401 and probably need to be .402.  They also tumble on me creating very large groups at 25yds.  I bought some tumble lube to see if it would fix the problem and have not taken the time to load them up yet.  Its a good looking bullet that I think has a 15 bin that should be good to go.  I think they also make a harder bullet as well.

Benchrst

I swaged down some .410 215's, up to 1,140 with #9. Might hit 1,200.

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sqlbullet

Your best bet for a consistent supply is to start casting.  This has other advantages beyond controlling supply.  You also control final diameter and alloy, allowing much better control over internal and terminal performance.

Accurate offers several 220 grain molds.  The 40-220P look interesting to me and looks like it might be a good option where case capacity is a concern.  It's length is the same as the Hornady 200 grain XTP.

PCFlorida

Quote from: sqlbullet on January 03 2017 08:23:21 AM MST
Your best bet for a consistent supply is to start casting.  This has other advantages beyond controlling supply.  You also control final diameter and alloy, allowing much better control over internal and terminal performance.

Accurate offers several 220 grain molds.  The 40-220P look interesting to me and looks like it might be a good option where case capacity is a concern.  It's length is the same as the Hornady 200 grain XTP.

That is interesting. I can get the 200 XTP moving @ 1250. I wonder if I can get the 220 going at about the same speed. Would be a great hog round.
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sqlbullet

Underwood pushes a 220 hard cast to 1200 fps.  I would consider that a hard ceiling.  Our pull-down suggests this load was 8.0 grains of Hodgdon Longshot (thanks Shadow). I would reduce 15% to 6.8 grains and work up.

Keep in mind a properly fit lead bullet seals the bore better than a jacketed bullet.  Better seal = more pressure = more velocity.  This is generally offset in reloading data by the fact that a hard cast lead bullet will be shorter than a dimensionally identical jacketed bullet.  Loaded to the same COAL, that means more initial free volume and a lower initial pressure from the same powder charge.


The_Shadow

Well said SQLBullet, even the pull-down from DT loads 6.2grains under a 200 grain cast for 40S&W.  See link for study.

http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-ammo-pull-downs/40sw-ammo-pull-downs/msg34814/#msg34814
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PCFlorida

A guy can dream can't he?  ;D

I would work it up very slowly.
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agtman

I still have a box of old Redline 220 cast boolits that were sized to .401. Anyone ever use these?

The Redlines leaded bad in my 610. Accuracy was so-so. When I shot them in my S&W 1006 using a fitted Bar-Sto tube, I started getting feeding problems after the first mag or so. But at the time, I wrote it off as likely being due to COAL issues and my own inexperience with loading the cast stuff for use in an autoloader, not to mention it was a tight-chambered Bar-Sto. The B-S tube ran fine with factory 10mm ammo and my jacketed-bullets reloads.

I'd like to try SNS's coated 220gn, but are those sized to .401 or .402?

Anybody loaded these coated 220s? What results at the range?
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The_Shadow

The coating will add to a better sealing dia and prevent lead contact with the bore... Some are having good results using the shake-n-bake method of powder poly paint applications.

I size my cast bullets to 0.4015", this fits inside without shaving or squeezing down.
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agtman

Shadow: do you think it would be worth "white gassing" my remaining Redline 220s to get rid of the red mold lube, and then dry powder coating them, as you mentioned, to eliminate leading problems?

I know I can't do anything about the sizing (.401), but they're sitting here in a box unused, looking like a waste of $$$ at this point. If I didn't already have them, I'd go ahead and buy 1K of SNS's 220gn coated bullets.
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The_Shadow

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Yes, you could clean them of lube first, then maybe rinse with acetone, but the price of the cleaners are likely more that getting some new already powder coated bullets.  LOL  Some have used the acetone or MEK as a wet transfer of the powdered paint method trying to eliminate excess.  The pul measured amounts for the amount of bullets and shake till they get good and sticky then spread out on wire to dry separately, then bake to cure.

It would be good project and you'd have powder left to do others. 
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