Gun Product Liability discussed at last nights Democratic debate

Started by Wolfie, March 07 2016 08:06:32 AM MST

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Wolfie

It was mentioned that only gun companies have 100% immunity when selling guns. They then asked the candidates what their position was.

Sanders said he was for holding gun companies responsible only if they intentionally sold guns where they knew would later be sold illegally.

Clinton is 100% for getting rid of immunity for gun companies.

This is a major issue if Clinton wins. She will not come after gun owners, she will go after manufacturers to make them comply or they will go bankrupt.

The_Shadow

The country is in dire straights and the outcome of this particular election and all of the seats up for the various other positions to include the Chief Justice sort of makes the balance of power shift, tipping the scales toward a government domination over the people...   >:D
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10-4

Why can't those democrats just compromise?  Isn't that what they always say about the Right?  Why is it that to the Left, "compromise" means those mean republicans giving up on their crazy right wing positions and moving toward the "common sense, reasonable" positions of the Left?  When does the Left actually compromise and move towards the Right?  (NEVER).   Clinton will do everything possible to take away the right of the law-abiding citizen to own a firearm.  She will never rest until she's successful.  She'll do it through the Supreme Court if she can't do it any other way.

Q: Do you ever wonder why someone would be so committed to taking away guns from citizens? 
Q: Why does she mistrust the citizens to own guns? 

A: She has evil plans.

Wolfie

Whats sad is Obama right now would make a deal.

If Hillary gets in we will see this tactic take root and she will not deal at all.

But since the NRA and GOP want no deal we will get boned.

10-4

I would NEVER make a deal with Obama.  He can't be trusted.  He must be opposed at all times and at any cost.  No other option when it comes to Obama.

Wolfie

The GOP cannot be trusted.

Obama would cut a deal for universal background checks for national reciprocity in a heartbeat.

If Hillary gets in, we will get nothing but free NRA memberships when you buy a gun.

Pablo

It's also a bit a false argument (when has that ever stopped the Democrats?). Gun manufacturers are not "immune" from all lawsuits. If the product is truly defective, then they are liable.

Wolfie

Oh I do not trust Democrats or any politician.

But here is the deal, the GOP passes a bill for background checks and national reciprocity in the House and Senate and it goes to Obama.

He signs it into law.

10-4

The GOP would have to be crazy to pass legislation mandating Universal Background checks!  We must NEVER have such a law! 

Wolfie

You would not take background checks for being able to carry anywhere in America?

sqlbullet

Not the version the dems are offering, that is back door gun registration.

My version, described here elsewhere, yes.

10-4

Universal Background check is the way you develop a database of guns and gun owners.  Unacceptable.  No compromise.  We'll get a National Carry law one of these days but until then we'll deal with it. 

sqlbullet

Don't have to do it that way.

A system similar to OTR encryption could be used such that the seller can prove a background check occurred, but the government retains no records of the transaction.  Such a system would give the power to the people to self-regulate, which would be a good thing.

Wolfie

I have no problem with fighting for more. I promote it.

In NYS the GOP Senate approved the SAFE Act. Without GOP support this would never have happened.

We got ZERO givebacks,,,,nada. It could have been a historic bill with heavy bipartisan support.

You can trust the GOP, not me.

Mr. AR50

Let's see. The same man who said 'If you like your Health Care Plan you can keep it'. The same man who said 'I am prohibited from simply ordering amnesty for millions of immigrants'. The same man who at one time talked about background checks on ammunition purchases as 'Another means of identifying those people with unregistered firearms.'
Yeah, right.
Any kind of 'National Reciprocity' that we receive in return for agreeing to 'Universal Background Checks', which, BTW, cannot work unless/until the CURRENT owners of all 350 million firearms in this country are identified and located, which is REGISTRATION, will be a joke. Obama is just dangling a carrot in front of those few gun owners who are naive enough to bite.
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