Virginia eliminates reciprocity

Started by Wolfie, December 22 2015 12:36:52 PM MST

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Pumpkinheaver

Missouri lost Virginia a few years ago. I'll never cast a shadow there again.

Wolfie

NYS Republicans gave us gun control in NY.

cwlongshot

You do know there is a reason one "side is refereed to as right "wing" and the other left"wing" right?  They belong to the same BIRD!

Look at the persons track record. If they agree with your track and HAVE ALIGNED with it, is more important than a "label".

Sure Republicans lean "our" way. But not all of them... and not all dems are bad. LIBERALS now that's a disease...

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Geeman

Has anyone ever tested the CC issue by the following defense?

Constitution of the United States
Article. IV
Section. 2.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.


In short, if your citizens are allowed by right or privilege, so does everyone that is a citizen of the other states.

It would seem to be impossible to enforce their exclusion of the privilege their own citizens enjoy.  The right of self defense shouldn't be denied to anyone, especially if their citizens have the right.

Greg


Wolfie

Different states have different standards. In NYS you can get a full carry without even ever having taken a gun course. (Got my wife a full carry and she never even picked up a gun)  Other states like Texas mandate a gun course.

Gun licenses are not like drivers licenses where there is a set standard. If the VA AG was fair he would have reviewed all the other states and those that were not up to snuff to VA could be taken off the reciprocity list.

Currently there is a national reciprocity bill sitting in Congress. Yet there has been no vote. Why? The president would sign it in exchange for a set national standard and background checks.

But thats not going to happen, one side needs the Wedge Issue to get elected. But just like communism, gay marriage and obamacare. That issue will fade away and we will lose more rights without anything in return.

10-4

Quote from: Wolfie on December 24 2015 07:45:25 PM MST

Currently there is a national reciprocity bill sitting in Congress. Yet there has been no vote. Why? The president would sign it in exchange for a set national standard and background checks.

Oooo, "Universal Background Checks" - no thank you.  Registration is the first step towards confiscation.  They can't confiscate until they know who has what.  Universal Background Checks starts the development of an Owner Database.  I don't want to ever see that.

Virginia made this change so that the Left could say "we've done something, anything" to reduce gun violence.  The recent senate election in VA did not go the way the Left wished, and so the VA AG stepped-in and "did something". 

Unfortunately what the AG did was make it less safe for the law abiding while not making the criminal any less dangerous.  And it was done right before the holidays so people would talk about it.

Now we'll get to see what the Virginia Senate, NRA, and all the other gun rights organizations can do to correct this travesty.

sqlbullet

Quote from: 10-4 on December 25 2015 05:54:06 AM MST
Oooo, "Universal Background Checks" - no thank you.  Registration is the first step towards confiscation.  They can't confiscate until they know who has what.  Universal Background Checks starts the development of an Owner Database.  I don't want to ever see that.

I completely agree about registration.  But, it doesn't follow that it requires a database.  We have had several threads here discussing this, and as a technologist I can tell you it is completely possible to save that record in such a way that you can verify a check occurred, without the government maintaining a registry of who owns what guns.  In fact, it doesn't even have to be conducted by an FFL.

See this post:  http://10mm-firearms.com/general-discussion/$200-suppressor-tax-stamp/msg51351/#msg51351

And, we need to stop saying "No" when this comes up.  We need to start saying, "Absolutely, and here are our terms".  Then it will be the gun control crowd that is stonewalling.