Some of these loads are over the recommended 35K psi limit for this round and are right around 40Kpsi according to Quickload. If you plan on duplicating these loads work your way up and don't hold me responsible if you or your gun blow up.

I used brand new S&B brass and primers which I pulled from loaded ammo (Clark says S&B brass is the strongest for this round). The cases looked great after firing with no smeared primers or any other signs of excessive pressure, unfortunately I forgot to measure for case head expansion.

All rounds were fired from a new production Zastava M57A - $250 at Buds

S&B 85 grain FMJ 1.335" COL
15.2 grains of W296, Quickload estimated pressure is 40K psi and estimated velocity is 1630 fps,  This load averaged 1558 fps over the chrony - I expected more from this one, W296 is obviously too slow for this cartridge I don't care what Hornady's manual says.

90 grain XTP 1.320" COL
8.5 grains Power Pistol, Quickload estimated pressure 40K psi and 1580 fps, averaged 1629 fps over chronograph - This was much faster than expected and I will be loading 8 grains from now on. Power pistol is the Tokarev powder from now on for me.

110 grain Armscore fmj 1.370" COL
12 grains W296, Quickload estimated pressure is 28K psi and 1265 fps, this load averaged 1241 fps over the chrony - This was a good mild plinking load with good accuracy.

110 grain Remington SP 1.370" COL
12.5 grains W296, Quickload estimated pressure is 32K psi and 1339 fps, Actual average velocity was 1302 fps, I doubt this bullet meant for the 30 carbine would expand at this velocity.

None of these loads have what I would call excessive recoil. I would compare the recoil to a +p 9mm.  I'm quickly becoming a fan of this cartridge it's a little hotrod.

 I'm going to test the 85 and 100 grain 32 caliber XTP's swaged down to .3085" hopefully this Wednesday. I'm trying for 1600 fps with the 85 grain XTP and 1550 fps with the 100 grain XTP.  I don't want to driver them too fast because Hornady doesn't recommend more than 1550 fps with these bullets. Brassfetcher tested these bullets at these velocities and got excellent results with the 100 grain XTP.  13.9" of penetration and the bullet expended to .510" not bad. I'm going through a Tokarev phase right now if you haven't noticed.  The little round intrigues me for some reason.

I love this round as well.

Just an aside, what dies do you have?

Thanks for the report, many say the cheap surplus of those have dried up.  Handloading would be a great way to bring it on!
Congrats!   

I wish there were more firearms in this caliber. I'd love to see a modern semi auto handgun, even a single stack.

I understand there was a small outfit making 7.62x25 AR uppers, and that played a big part in the surplus being bought up.

Wish I had one!

Quote from: 10mmGarand on December 06 2015 07:50:27 AM MST
I wish there were more firearms in this caliber. I'd love to see a modern semi auto handgun, even a single stack.

I understand there was a small outfit making 7.62x25 AR uppers, and that played a big part in the surplus being bought up.

Wish I had one!

7.62Tok DI Upper $700 - http://www.rmwxtreme.com/#top

I'm using Lee dies

Quote from: wadcutter on December 06 2015 11:27:18 AM MST
I'm using Lee dies

Nice. I have Lee, RCBS, Hornady in lots of sizes with no issues. Thanks.

Quote from: Pablo on December 06 2015 07:58:29 AM MST

Quote from: 10mmGarand on December 06 2015 07:50:27 AM MST
I wish there were more firearms in this caliber. I'd love to see a modern semi auto handgun, even a single stack.

I understand there was a small outfit making 7.62x25 AR uppers, and that played a big part in the surplus being bought up.

Wish I had one!

7.62Tok DI Upper $700 - http://www.rmwxtreme.com/#top

Thank you! I thought these were discontinued a while back.

I want one. But I have only two practical reasons why!

 I just finished testing the 100 grain 32 caliber XTP's that I ran through a .308" lee bullet sizer to bring them down to .3085". I worked up to a max load of 8 grains of Power pistol with a cartridge overall length of 1.320" and CCI 500 standard small pistol primers in NEW Starline brass. Please be careful and work your way up if you plan on duplicating this load. I worked my way up in .2 grain increments and recommend you do the same. I'd feel terrible if someone hurt themselves.

Shots
1 )1527
2) 1501
3) 1523
4) 1537
5) 1525
6) 1516
7) 1511
Average velocity -  1520 fps
Extreme Spread -  36 fps
Standard deviation - ? IDK

According to Quickload 8 grains of Power pistol should propel this bullet to 1502 fps which is very close to the results I obtained and 41,282 psi Which is quite a bit higher than the CIP 3200 bar (36,250 psi) pressure limit for the 7.62x25 Tokarev. Quickload has 34,809 psi as max pressure  so again please please be careful and work your way up if you plan on duplicating these loads. I've noticed Quickload slightly underestimates velocity with Power Pistol and Overestimates velocity with H110\W296 in this round so actual pressure could and most likely is slightly higher than 41,282 psi. I'm also using a new production Zastava M57A which might be stronger than your average 70 year old TT33, but I'm not sure about that.  Hornady rates the 100 grain xtp bullet for 1550 fps max and states that even 1500 fps could be too fast for this bullet at close range in their 327 Federal Magnum load data section. Even though Brass fetcher had good results in his gel test at 1550 fps I think 7.6 -7.7 grains of power pistol at around 1450 fps is optimal for this bullet and should bring the pressure down very close to the 3200 bar limit.

Here's a look at what the primers look like after being shot. They don't look too bad but there was some cratering.


And here's a look at brass fetchers gel test of this bullet at 1550 fps. He got 13.9" of penetration and the Bullet expanded to .510" not bad.


I think this would make a decent  round for Coyotes and other small predators and varmints. The 7.5 grain load shoots like a laser, we had a blast blowing up milk jugs out to 50 yards

I also tested the 85 grain 32 Caliber XTP and got some amazing velocity. Much more than the bullet was designed for so I wont post the results but they were interesting to say the least.

That is excellent. Thank you wadcutter!

Wow......a 16" barrel AR, it would be interesting. Or even an SBR.

How about a "Civilian" version of the Ppsh. You can get one from a company if Vernonia, OR. that is converting them to semi-auto for civilian sales.

Captain O

Picking a nit I know, but they would be building them from parts.  The FFL rule that once a machine gun always a machine gun prevents converting full-auto back to semi-auto.  Companies will buy demilled parts kits that have the receiver cut into three section, and put the parts on new receivers.

PPSH-1 is a beast, even modern day American soldiers are impressed with it's performance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq63GlFiCKE