I very much like the 1911, despite every gun rag in the world shoving it down m throat all the time.  Found this posted in another forum, and thought you guys might be interested.  I am sure interested to hear your take:



For those that can't watch the video right off, let me summarize his complaints:

Magazine capacity too small.

It has a thumb safety.

Some mags don't work well.

Reliability.

I have Glocks, 19 and 20SF, a Sig P226 9mm Navy, a NAA .22 mini mag and a Dan Wesson CCO 1911 .45ACP. These are my go-to pistols! I have had countless other pistols and revolvers over the years but the ones above, I'm finally content with ALL of them for self defense and protection, in the city and some in the back country.

With that said, the DW CCO 1911, is what I carry most of the time! Why? It's fairly lightweight, holds seven plus one, is VERY reliable, VERY accurate, THIN and slips in one of my three Milt Sparks or Alessi holsters securely and with ease.

I had only one problem with a Tripp mag... a bad follower and Virgil himself asked me to send it to him, I did and he not only replaced the follower, but sent me a new Cobra mag as a sign of good business and friendship.

I've noticed that on the 1911Forum... there have been a number of recent posts on the Glocks and other pistols that are used and carried 'in favor' of the 1911. I kind of feel that's sacrigligious talking about the wonderment of Glocks on the 1911Forum. But, what the heck... people love their Glocks... but don't knock the 1911 on the 1911Forum!

Right now as I sit here at the desk, my Glock 19 is right with me, in a Milt Sparks NLG OWB holster. Fifteen rounds and I feel comfortable. I like Glocks! I like my Glock 10mm!

Back to the 1911... most of the problems I read about are folks who are trying to 'trick out' their pistols. I carry the DW CCO standard and stock! Like I said, thin, lightweight, reliable, accurate and .45ACP.

I don't have any problems with 1911's.

I really think those are pretty limp excuses to hate on the 1911.

The reliability thing makes me chuckle, because honestly of my non-experimental hot messes, I think my various plastic guns have had more total FTF's than my 1911's sum total in the last 5 years. 7-8 rounds? Meh, whatever.

Just an aside my 10mm Glock 20L and 10mm AR have been tops in FTF. But they are project guns, and very much works in progress. As long as I am making improvements, they are my hobby.

I have two 1911 guns (an officers and a 1911A1 full size). I wouldn't trust the full size one for personal defense. My Glock is the most reliable gun out there.


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Interesting article, I don't really hate the 1911 guns, but I too am discouraged by the constant brainwashing in the media like no other guns exist. 

By the way it was the S&W having a 9 round magazine that I opted for the 1006 early in 1990.

Opinions are just like assholes, every body has one and nobody else wants to hear it.  this gentleman has a real narrow mind set on the 1911. My experience has been a little different than his.  I have spent years as a range master and have assisted a large amount of shooters that were having problems with their pistols.  Not to mention keeping all the rental guns working. 
The number one problem seems to be shooter, next the ammo, and last the gun itself.
More people have FTF from Glocks and other polymer guns, most of which I believe are limp wrist/shooter problems.  A lot of people balk at the thought, but when they show me that the gun is malfunctioning every couple of rounds, I reload it and fire 15 rounds in two seconds with their gun, they believe me.....
Magazine capacity too small.... My Para-Ordnance P-14's hold fifteen plus one rounds of 45.  And with the Peter Stahl Omega I have 16 plus one 10mm's.
Thumb safety....If you have a problem with a thumb safety you really need to train more.  Even when I am shooting a Glock, I have trained to sweep the safety, do not even think about it, it is just part of the drawing sequence.
Some mags don't work well.... This is your weapon your last defense, are you really going to count on cheap magazines?  Buy and carry quality magazines and never worry about it again.
Reliability....If it was not reliable, I do not understand why they are still making them one hundred years after they were introduced???
Well that's my take on it

  These are four good points that it seems I found in my only 1911 experience. I'm of the opinion (James Yeager agrees ) that they probably should have stayed in 1911 

For one on one encounters if 5 rounds is not enough that's on you not capacity.

But of course some need 100 barrel mags to get it done.

btw, I carry either a Glock or the 357 LCR

Kind of...

My choice!

Quote from: dan10mmman on September 25 2015 12:12:47 PM MDT
Opinions are just like assholes, every body has one and nobody else wants to hear it.  this gentleman has a real narrow mind set on the 1911. My experience has been a little different than his.  I have spent years as a range master and have assisted a large amount of shooters that were having problems with their pistols.  Not to mention keeping all the rental guns working. 
The number one problem seems to be shooter, next the ammo, and last the gun itself.
More people have FTF from Glocks and other polymer guns, most of which I believe are limp wrist/shooter problems.  A lot of people balk at the thought, but when they show me that the gun is malfunctioning every couple of rounds, I reload it and fire 15 rounds in two seconds with their gun, they believe me.....
Magazine capacity too small.... My Para-Ordnance P-14's hold fifteen plus one rounds of 45.  And with the Peter Stahl Omega I have 16 plus one 10mm's.
Thumb safety....If you have a problem with a thumb safety you really need to train more.  Even when I am shooting a Glock, I have trained to sweep the safety, do not even think about it, it is just part of the drawing sequence.
Some mags don't work well.... This is your weapon your last defense, are you really going to count on cheap magazines?  Buy and carry quality magazines and never worry about it again.
Reliability....If it was not reliable, I do not understand why they are still making them one hundred years after they were introduced???
Well that's my take on it

+1 pretty well sums sit up for me too.
By the way, big appreciation for my Glock 20 too.  But it's not an either or debate to me.

PS...
I respect you Intercooler, but James Yeager?!!!  Seriously??!!

Quote from: The_Shadow on September 25 2015 11:04:56 AM MDT
Interesting article, I don't really hate the 1911 guns, but I too am discouraged by the constant brainwashing in the media like no other guns exist. 

I think one reason for their popularity is that, if someone is looking for a semi-auto that has a trigger which is very similar to the feel of a S&W DA/SA revolver's SA trigger ... which means that the trigger hardly moves at all until the hammer falls ... then it may only be the 1911 which is comes anywhere close to that.  I've only handled a few other SA semi-autos besides my 1911, but all of those "SA guns" had triggers that moved considerably before the hammer fell.

Quote from: Rojo27 on September 25 2015 02:00:30 PM MDT

Quote from: dan10mmman on September 25 2015 12:12:47 PM MDT
Opinions are just like assholes, every body has one and nobody else wants to hear it.  this gentleman has a real narrow mind set on the 1911. My experience has been a little different than his.  I have spent years as a range master and have assisted a large amount of shooters that were having problems with their pistols.  Not to mention keeping all the rental guns working. 
The number one problem seems to be shooter, next the ammo, and last the gun itself.
More people have FTF from Glocks and other polymer guns, most of which I believe are limp wrist/shooter problems.  A lot of people balk at the thought, but when they show me that the gun is malfunctioning every couple of rounds, I reload it and fire 15 rounds in two seconds with their gun, they believe me.....
Magazine capacity too small.... My Para-Ordnance P-14's hold fifteen plus one rounds of 45.  And with the Peter Stahl Omega I have 16 plus one 10mm's.
Thumb safety....If you have a problem with a thumb safety you really need to train more.  Even when I am shooting a Glock, I have trained to sweep the safety, do not even think about it, it is just part of the drawing sequence.
Some mags don't work well.... This is your weapon your last defense, are you really going to count on cheap magazines?  Buy and carry quality magazines and never worry about it again.
Reliability....If it was not reliable, I do not understand why they are still making them one hundred years after they were introduced???
Well that's my take on it

+1 pretty well sums sit up for me too.
By the way, big appreciation for my Glock 20 too.  But it's not an either or debate to me.

PS...
I respect you Intercooler, but James Yeager?!!!  Seriously??!!

That was a joke! Yeager is nutso!

Quote from: Intercooler on September 25 2015 02:29:34 PM MDT
That was a joke! Yeager is nutso!

I was kinda wondering!!!   

I too don't get the either/or thing. I thought we all agreed Glock vs. Browning discussions don't belong on serious forums. 10mm is a SERIOUS forum.

the way I see it, the "either/or" thing is  for when you are getting dressed in the morning...Am I going to strap on either a 1911 or a glock.  Seriously a 10mm either/or

As far as the reliability goes, I would say this.

Lets have Glock open up their patents and get 100+ different makers out on the market, and see what you end up with.

Seems like RIA makes a pretty solid $500-$600 1911, and a Ruger SR1911 is just a bill or two more.