Wanna learn to reload..

Started by Brian B., July 07 2015 06:47:39 PM MDT

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Brian B.

Could someone show me a good kit (basic kit, im poor LOL) that i can reload .40 and 10MM with? (Maybe a link to one on Amazon/ i use Amazon a lot.

(I fully appreciate how critical details are in the reloading process~ i get it,.. I wouldnt load 10MM full or approaching full power until i had it down pat,.. Start with light loads first)

My wife's grandad was a big reloader/ she would like to see me get into it too. (From what im seeing its the only way to shoot 10MM anyway)

tommac919

First, I'd say go and get 2 books 1) ABCs of reloading 2)load data book like Lyman's....
Then read  anything else you can fine, or better, a person that can teach you.

As to a good basic kit, I'd say a Lee Classic Turret press, they have kits with extras but not with everything you'll need.

Reason for the LCT is that it can work as a single stage or in turret mode ( switch over very easy)


Ps one press I wouldn't recommend to a beginner is the Lee Pro 1000.... Tho it looks like a low price and comes with dies,it can cause you to pull out hair. Also it's a progressive type and its best to learn on a single stage type press

Rooster41

I started with the Lee Turret press.  tommac919 pretty much nailed it.  You should be able to do both calibers with one die set.  There should be instructions included with the dies.  I also look for deals and "blemished" bullets online.  I rarely buy bullets in the retail stores.  It will become and addiction. When I started, I was only going to load for my 243, 357 Mag and 270 Win.  I am up to 12 calibers now.  Looking at adding 2 or 3 more (45-70, 22 TCM and 41 Mag) Have fun.
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The_Shadow

I usually tell people to get the RCBS Rock Chucker Kit, it has lots of stuff and when you add the dies and shell holder @ $300 you can get the $50 rebate.
http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/937051/rcbs-rock-chucker-supreme-master-single-stage-press-kit?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Digital calipers can be had from Harbor Freight for $10 on sale
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DM1906

Quote from: The_Shadow on July 07 2015 08:59:28 PM MDT
I usually tell people to get the RCBS Rock Chucker Kit, it has lots of stuff and when you add the dies and shell holder @ $300 you can get the $50 rebate.
http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/937051/rcbs-rock-chucker-supreme-master-single-stage-press-kit?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Digital calipers can be had from Harbor Freight for $10 on sale

This. I've recommended the same, dozens of times, for years. Every beginner should start on a single-stage press, and every loading bench should include a Rock-Chucker. I have 2, both decades old, both still in service. Once experienced, progressive presses may be considered. That's a different discussion.
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gandog56

Check out youtube videos about reloading to see what you would be getting into, also read the books aforementioned. Basic starting setup would be a press, scale, reloading dies, calipers, and a reloading manual for recipes. All kinds of other bells and whistles stuff you can also get, reloading blocks, Tumbler to clean your fired cases, tumbling media, Powder measures, hand primer tools, case trimmers.

I would think a good place to start would be a Lee Starter kit with a single stage press. About the only other thing you would need is the dies and a manual to start pumping out bullets. I see a starter kit on sale for $119.

https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-breechlock-challenger-kit-90030.html
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Brian B.

I appreciate the input, keep it coming.

I will load SLOWLY,..  :))

Im not concened with loading speed but safety as i will load slightly hot, but not stupid heavy hot..


wadcutter

Start with Lee dies.  They're inexpensive, come with a shell holder and very good instructions.  Start simple don't go progressive right away, everyone should own a single stage press anyway. Good luck

cwall64

Funny thing is I still spend more time working up my loads with the 30+ year old RockChucker than I do once i get the load I want and run it on Dillon XL650!  I told myself that I was only going to reload 10mm when I got back into reloading, but as is always the case I am now doing all the pistol calibers I own...  So, lots of time on the old single stage - you always will need one - a great investment to get one that will last!  I can't say enough about how good RCBS has been supporting their products - 30+ year old Uniflow and I asked them if it was the same as the modern ones as the hopper was a different color, so they sent me a new hopper and cap!  Numerous bent de-capping pins, they keep sending them on 30 year old dies...  Dillon support has been similar also, but I do not have Dillon equipment from 30 years ago to compare it to!
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Brian B.

So thats two or more comments that i'll need a single stage regarless,.. If thats the case thats what i'm 'agonna do!

Hermit

i have and started on the lee turret it has its quarks but i wouldnt go single stage unless i was loading for precision

The_Shadow

To me even though I own a Dillon Progressive press, I work on my single stage because every round is match grade quality because I am anal about my loading...As you read through the Pull-Down sections you can see my attention to details provide so others can learn of what things to look for...

I have many cases pre prepared, pass through sized, regular sized and deprimed and case mouths expanded so when I am ready I hand prime as many as I want to load the hand weigh powder, charge the case place it on the press to seat while the next charge settles on the scale, seat a bullet to the proper coal.  After all of them are loaded, I then run them back to final crimp.  Oh yea, I wipe each of them off and bag them up with a label with the pertinent data.

In a recent test, I tested some newly loaded rounds against 35 year old ammo (yes I have many that have been loaded that long ago) and they were within 10 FPS of each other using the same recipe with newer lots of powder.

Why do I do things this way, 100% function and quality is my goal.  One member (Intercooler) here has shot my handloads and he can attest to their performance from his guns.

About dies as it relates to handloading and seating and crimping in particular.
In the effort to save handloaders money the die makers make the dies to perform every step necessary to make suitable cartridges. While some can perform multiple task such as sizing and depriming or expanding and depriming or expanding and powder drop and even seating and crimping in separate or same step operations.
Take the seating and crimping die for example; If a bullet had a good cannelure groove such as the 38/357 44 spl/mag their bullet usually have a generous cannelure and a roll crimp has a place to go as the cannelure is present even as the bullet is still in motion, to do them in the same step operations.
However most semi auto pistol and rifles lack a cannelure groove on the projectile body, therefore if the die is not adjusted up and away from the top of the case neck, the crimp section of the die is contacted during bullet seating, the case mouth starts being squeezed inward, while the bullet is still in its downward travel.
By raising the seater crimp die up in such away that the crimp section doesn't contact the casing while the bullet is seated, provides an easier seating process, with less stress and strain. During this operation the bullet is free to slide inside the case neck. Then in a separate step the die can be lowered for the proper crimp and the seating stem raised so it barely makes contact with the projectile while you are applying the final crimp.

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Brian B.

#12
 :o

Im gonna have to get some books, i can see that already

The_Shadow

The RockChucker kit comes with the Speer #14 manual it is hard bound and an excellent manual which contains loading data for most cartridges.

Other manuals such as Lyman, Hornady are also very good sources of detailed info.
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DM1906

Quote from: Brian B. on July 09 2015 08:43:26 PM MDT
:o

Im gonna have to get some books, i can see that already


Reply #1:

Quote from: tommac919 on July 07 2015 07:33:44 PM MDT
First, I'd say go and get 2 books 1) ABCs of reloading 2)load data book like Lyman's....

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