Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn will reintroduce the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act
http://conservativetribune.com/senate-concealed-carriers-love/

I would love for something like this to become reality, but there are some other interesting hurdles to address that may make this more of a nightmare.

For instance, under this bill my Utah CWP would allow me to carry in California the same way my Utah DL allows me to drive there.  Does that then extend to my equipment the same way it does for cars?  I can drive a Utah car in CA even though the car may not meet CA's more restrictive emissions guidelines.  Could I carry my standard capacity Witness or ParaOrdnance 10mm's there that are not on CA approved firearms lists as long as I don't leave the gun behind by sale or gift when I leave?

Same goes for NY.

The other issue here is the standards.  Drivers Ed courses and requirements are pretty standard state to state.  The standard to get a concealed weapons permit not so much.

I would love to have some kind of national, 50 state legal, shall-issue.  I just see logistically that this could be a nightmare.

Obama will not sign this without a compromise to include what he wants.

No thanks, seriously the laws between states vary to much for it to work and I absolutely don't want the federal government doing a one size fits all.

"No thanks"...?  Seriously?  This is what's wrong with gun owners today!  If the United States Congress is introducing a bill that advances 2A rights....even a LITTLE BIT, ALL gun owners should be ON BOARD! 
Obama is on the way out...
Recent Supreme cases have put gun owners and the lobbying groups that support them in the driver's seat!
It's TIME someone passed a FEDERAL law that forces California (by way of 14A) to comply.

ALL gun owners need to be more like the libs when they do their "get out the vote" campaigns....ANY pro-gun 2A legislation, ANYWHERE is good for gun owners!  The smallest, most meaningless case can become the lynch pin that collapses decades of illegal, antigun legislation in this country.

There is not a SINGLE "gun law" on at any level that functionally "prevents" ANY criminal from possessing a gun....NOT ONE!  This means ALL current antigun laws are contrary to PUBLIC interest...and completely irrelevant beyond the scope of criminalizing lawful possession by law abiding citizens.

I live in Kalifornia and I SEE the "wave" coming in our direction from the DC and Chicago cases....I KNOW that the days of Kalifornia's ridiculous 10 day waiting period and "Approved for Sale" Roster are NUMBERED thanks to ALL these "little" efforts over the last decades!

If the FEDS pas a law that HELPS the citizens and 2A....it HELPS US ALL!

Or it acts as a registry. 

Here's the list to move on first if they feel a need to "take weapons off the street to protect the people".

It sounds like transforming a right into a privilege. 

Sorry for being cynical.  Our government made me that way.

Greg

I just think it will backfire and hurt many states gun laws, help some States but damage many.

Quote from: kilibreaux on March 25 2015 04:00:05 AM MDT
If the FEDS pas a law that HELPS the citizens and 2A....it HELPS US ALL!

I don't disagree with this sentiment.  I am just unconvinced that this law, in a form that would pass and get signed, would actually advance the 2A cause.

If it takes away constitutional carry in the states that have it, and enforces draconian DC style requirements to obtain the permit, then for me it is a huge step backward, not forward.

First of all......are you sure you want the fed involved in CCW? What happens when a more unfriendly congress is seated? They ram-rodded Obamacare through, do you think they would hesitate to attack reciprocity for CCW? Do you think they want start placing more requirements on CCW's, in addition to state requirements?

Also, there are always strings attached.....for instance, DL have federal funds attached...meaning as long as the state follows what they want, they will get federal $$$ for road projects. Remember the switch on Interstates to 55mph? Do you recall all the states changing their speeds to 55mph? Why? Because the feds had $$$ tied to the cooperation clause. Accordingly, now, most states have a similar driving test...albeit not identical, but the feds have helped structure similar tests and material.

Then the bottom question, has the Fed involvement into really anything remained static? Once their nose in under the tent, the whole camel will be there shortly.

So far, there has not been any bill proposed for reciprocity that does any good. So far, all they say is CA, you have to accept MO CCW....but one still has to abide by all the CA laws, including illegal bullets, mag capacity etc. (I use these as general, because I'm not familiar with CA regulations.) The national reciprocity would be an attempt for the fed to start their encroachment.

Quote from: sqlbullet on March 24 2015 03:41:45 PM MDT
I would love for something like this to become reality, but there are some other interesting hurdles to address that may make this more of a nightmare.

For instance, under this bill my Utah CWP would allow me to carry in California the same way my Utah DL allows me to drive there.  Does that then extend to my equipment the same way it does for cars?  I can drive a Utah car in CA even though the car may not meet CA's more restrictive emissions guidelines.  Could I carry my standard capacity Witness or ParaOrdnance 10mm's there that are not on CA approved firearms lists as long as I don't leave the gun behind by sale or gift when I leave?

Same goes for NY.

The other issue here is the standards.  Drivers Ed courses and requirements are pretty standard state to state.  The standard to get a concealed weapons permit not so much.

I would love to have some kind of national, 50 state legal, shall-issue.  I just see logistically that this could be a nightmare.

It is not illegal to posses a gun that is not on the roster, nor is it illegal to bring one in from out of State. It is illegal to bring in a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds, if it wasn't in California before the 10 round law went in to effect.

Supposedly if you lived in California before the magazine ban, and purchased high-cap mags, and then moved out of State. You could bring them back in if you returned.

You can do in inter-family transfer of non-rostered guns in California. If I had a sibling or parent that lived in another State they could buy any handgun and transfer it to me as long as it wasn't an assault weapon or came with magazines that held more than 10 rounds.




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Yeah...But you see my point.  I can drive my non-ca approved vehicle there for a visit.  My Witness, not so much.

Quote from: 10mmfan on March 24 2015 06:21:42 PM MDT
No thanks, seriously the laws between states vary to much for it to work and I absolutely don't want the federal government doing a one size fits all.

I agree.  The only way this would work is for them all to suddenly have a paradigm shift and then realize what "shall not be infringed" means.

A new Constitutional Amendment is whats needed that spells out gun rights specifically.

In order to do that you will need Democratic support. In order to do that background checks and a ban on assault weapons would be a must.

This is the only way to do that without worrying about future Congresses. The time to move on it is now, Obama would cut a deal. Hillary will not.

Quote from: Wolfie on March 25 2015 06:41:20 PM MDT
A new Constitutional Amendment is whats needed that spells out gun rights specifically.

In order to do that you will need Democratic support. In order to do that background checks and a ban on assault weapons would be a must.

This is the only way to do that without worrying about future Congresses. The time to move on it is now, Obama would cut a deal. Hillary will not.

Don't forget hicap mags, serial printed firing pins and fingerprint sensors.

Quote from: 10mmfan on March 25 2015 08:07:36 PM MDT

Quote from: Wolfie on March 25 2015 06:41:20 PM MDT
A new Constitutional Amendment is whats needed that spells out gun rights specifically.

In order to do that you will need Democratic support. In order to do that background checks and a ban on assault weapons would be a must.

This is the only way to do that without worrying about future Congresses. The time to move on it is now, Obama would cut a deal. Hillary will not.

Don't forget hicap mags, serial printed firing pins and fingerprint sensors.

And the thing that goes up!