Quote from: Wolfie on March 11 2015 06:13:17 PM MDT
Nothing wrong with background checks,

Infringe legal descriptions include:

advance stealthily
meddle
interfere
take liberties
frustrate

Shall NOT be infringed!!!

Quote from: Wolfie on March 11 2015 06:13:17 PM MDT
you guys disagree and thats your opinion

Take a good look at all the contracts that are signed when purchasing a firearm, including the background check.  I say its government exceeding their bounds.  My opinion is that its just another infringement, soon to be followed by another, then another....

Greg

Its not a infringement you're good to go you get your gun.

Quote from: Wolfie on March 11 2015 07:14:30 PM MDT
Its not a infringement you're good to go you get your gun.

ANY delay IS an infringement.  Signing a contract under duress in order to get a fire arm IS an infringement.  A government choosing what disqualifies an applicant is an infringement.

Government seeks power over us.  Anyone fully understand what a "citizen" is?  The word picked up it legal definition when the slaves were liberated from personal ownership, thus being subject to the government instead.  Then they began teaching that it was a good thing for the rest of us too.  BTW, that's one of those check boxes on that application.

Greg

A infringement is what Republicans and Democrats did in NY, when they banned all Assault Weapons.

A 5 minute background check is not a infringement.

Quote from: Wolfie on March 11 2015 07:45:52 PM MDT
A infringement is what Republicans and Democrats did in NY, when they banned all Assault Weapons.

A 5 minute background check is not a infringement.

Five minutes would be nice, I always get delayed I've been able to pick it up next day up to 11 days.

Giving the government a say as to when its OK to allow an individual to have a gun, and dictate the terms which apply
transforms the "right" into a "privilege"

AKA an infringement.

Greg

Quote from: Wolfie on March 11 2015 07:45:52 PM MDT
A infringement is what Republicans and Democrats did in NY, when they banned all Assault Weapons.

A 5 minute background check is not a infringement.

And did it to weapons that are not by definition, "assault" weapons.

Concur gandog, they could have made those weapons at the very least licensable like handguns. (That stinks too, but at least I could get something)

Quote from: Wolfie on March 10 2015 09:38:10 AM MDT
Seems that there is a lot of confusion with liberal Republicans posting on topics. I think we need to ID who are the real conservatives and who the liberals are. The best way is to do that is to post what your conservative beliefs are.

I will go first.

1. Pro gun

2. Pro family values

3. Pro strong military/police

4. Strong foreign policy

That seems like a definition of a USA conservative by a liberal or maybe a statist. Basically wrong on several levels. Conservatism is rooted in the US Constitution. Let's back into this: Anyone who is against ANY of the Constitution (ie the 2nd counts as well) is not a conservative and anyone for an unbounded government in any form at any level is not a conservative.

Pablo of course its wrong, today's conservative is just being pro gun and anti Obama without offering a alternative to anything.

Unless of course if you have money and then the more you have the more conservative you are.

Plus never mind that the GOP trampled over the Constitution with the Patriot Act.

Quote from: Wolfie on March 12 2015 08:30:46 AM MDT
Pablo of course its wrong, today's conservative is just being pro gun and anti Obama without offering a alternative to anything.

Unless of course if you have money and then the more you have the more conservative you are.

Plus never mind that the GOP trampled over the Constitution with the Patriot Act.

There certainly are big gov hack republicans out there.  There are conservatives offering plans.  It doesn't even matter as long as Obama is president.
You are using the wrong language.  Conservative is not a synonym for Republican.  Unfortunately, due to only having two viable parties right now, conservatives, libertarians, constitutionalist, independents (teaparty'ers), etc, are often forced to vote Republican.

I, for one, have to hold my nose each time I vote due to my distrust for my fellow man.

What are you thoughts on this "New World Order" that is always being mentioned?

Truth? or Fabrication?

I have to suspect there is some truth to the matter.  How can it be so secretive and yet so controlling?  Look at Obama's own documents being privatized for example!

All of us can see the small changes and feel the affects that are happening.  But there is a broader controlling factor no matter who we try to elect to the office!

Quote from: The_Shadow on March 12 2015 09:31:02 AM MDT
What are you thoughts on this "New World Order" that is always being mentioned?

Truth? or Fabrication?

Truth.

If you understand what it is and who is behind it, you can clearly see what is happening.





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Rich, they are offering no plans.

They run the House and Senate.

As for the NWO, GHW Bush called it when president and yes I read Pat Robertsons "The New World Order" when it first came out. In fact I may still have the book.

The answer to your question is affirmative.

Quote from: Wolfie on March 12 2015 01:04:22 PM MDT
Rich, they are offering no plans.

I think we found your fundamental problem. Conservatives do offer solutions. They don't offer pie in the sky magic "plans". I think the way out of mess is to not keep doing the same stupid thing over and over again.

And if you don't think there are alternatives to the losing ways of Obama and Hilary then you are just closed minded.