Police dashcam footage of the arrest of Army Master Sergeant CJ Grisham has surfaced, and reveals how dangerously close the decorated veteran came to losing his life in an altercation with Temple, Texas police officers.

In a disgusting and illegal stop these tyrants harass and unlawfully detain a man and nearly escalate the situation to violence for responding to a sheepish 911 call of someone who saw this man with a gun and got scared.


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LMAO!  Pretty timely tidbit of info there Wolfie considering this took place March..... 2013.   

This case was cussed and discussed ad nauseum in most gun related forums..... in 2013.

I'll give you the win if it makes you feel better.  Again... well played. 

Did not know it was a old case. He was found guilty.

http://kdhnews.com/news/crime/grisham-found-guilty-in-temple-gun-case-trial/article_7c15b956-5173-11e3-a888-001a4bcf6878.html

Yes he was.   Found guilty of interfering with police duties, a class B misdemeanor, in November..... 2013.

The man complied to all the officers orders.

Asking why you are being stopped is interfering with police duties in Texas?

I have been open carrying here in Va for a couple years and I've never been stopped.

The interference with public duties came when Grisham resisted being disarmed.

The sad part here is that this qualified as a Terry stop.  We may still have guns, but we no longer have freedom.

Quote from: sqlbullet on March 02 2015 10:39:58 AM MST
The interference with public duties came when Grisham resisted being disarmed.

The sad part here is that this qualified as a Terry stop.  We may still have guns, but we no longer have freedom.

I have said this long ago (not here). Your guns are useless against the government. When you look at situations like Zimmerman and Martin, the government can still ruin your life if you use a gun to defend yourself.


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You call that resisting to being disarmed?

Those cops were lame. They should have detained, identified him and confirmed his pistol license and let him go.

Quote from: Wolfie on March 02 2015 02:44:23 PM MST
You call that resisting to being disarmed?

Those cops were lame. They should have detained, identified him and confirmed his pistol license and let him go.

This is what the officer was trying to do. The guy put his hands on the rifle when the officer was trying to identify the weapon/ That was his first mistake.

His second mistake was when he didn't put his hands behind his back when the officer initially asked him too.

Common sense goes a long way in life.

Sorry I am pro cop, all the guy did was adjust the weapon after the cop moved it.

If the cop was right he would charged him with the proper offenses from the beginning.

What happened is they looked through the books to justify a arrest. BS police work.

I am very support of police.  Common sense (to me) would have been to freeze and obey every word the officer's said, one by one.  When you have a firearm, I was taught that even the most tolerant of police want to "diffuse" the situation of any weapons first - for obvious safety reasons.

Not standing up for any side here but the guy seemed like he was rubbing the officers' noses in his rights and they had no idea one way or another what he MIGHT do next.  What am I missing?

Pat

This was an issue of stopping without probable cause.  It was clear the officer didn't have an answer when he was asked why he was detaining the man. 

911 should have made it clear that carrying a gun wasn't against the law.  Just because someone call in about something doesn't mean that they need to respond.  I don't like the lime green cars, and just because I call in a lime green car doesn't lead to stopping the individual driving that car.

I view it as the officer escalating the situation in an attempt to "control" it. 

Greg

Quote from: Wolfie on March 02 2015 03:32:56 PM MST
Sorry I am pro cop, all the guy did was adjust the weapon after the cop moved it.

If the cop was right he would charged him with the proper offenses from the beginning.

What happened is they looked through the books to justify a arrest. BS police work.

And I am pro gun.

The guy knew he was creating a situation by open carrying an AR on the road. The LEO took a look at the gun and the guy grabbed it. He is the one who escalated the situation. The LEO had a right to ensure his own safety.

That having been said, the LEO could have handled the situation better. But hindsight is 20/20, and obstruction of justice is the correct charge for what the guy did. If he is going to tempt fate by walking around with an AR exposed, he should be smart about the way he conducts himself and should choose his actions wisely.

The LEO fondled the gun and let go, the man re adjusted it.

If you are allowed to open carry you should be able to do so anywhere, otherwise ban it.

Once the cop determined he was no threat he should have let him go, but these cops have thin skins and their egos took over.