Obama, like Hilary, can only complain about the past and have no actions of their own to point to.

Buckeye, I am no fan of the Democrats either.

But look at the issue, we have a immigration problem and the GOP has no alternative. So Obama acts and he continues to increase deportations by going after more criminals 105,000 deported in 2008, 198,000 in 2013. Congress funds for less than 500,000 deportations a year.

Unless Congress funds for the deportation of 12 million, Obama will be right to act. And what he doing is just simple prioritization. There are military and OTJ guys here, you know what I mean. Who do you go after 1st? And what's wrong with getting the rest on the "record?"




http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/02/u-s-deportations-of-immigrants-reach-record-high-in-2013/

Quote from: Wolfie on February 18 2015 10:44:33 PM MST
Buckeye, I am no fan of the Democrats either.

But look at the issue, we have a immigration problem and the GOP has no alternative. So Obama acts and he continues to increase deportations by going after more criminals 105,000 deported in 2008, 198,000 in 2013. Congress funds for less than 500,000 deportations a year.

Unless Congress funds for the deportation of 12 million, Obama will be right to act. And what he doing is just simple prioritization. There are military and OTJ guys here, you know what I mean. Who do you go after 1st? And what's wrong with getting the rest on the "record?"




http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/02/u-s-deportations-of-immigrants-reach-record-high-in-2013/

Obama creates crisis, Obama demands action, Obama takes action on his own.  Obama acting illegally.


Also, try reading the whole article- http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117412/deportations-under-obama-vs-bush-who-deported-more-immigrants

Yes, Obama has been the only president since Ike.

Many moons ago when I was in college I said illegal immigration would be the downfall of this country if unchecked - circa 1976.

WOLFIE: I did ask my instructor and apparently you would not like his answer - his answer: "Not good under any of the presidents, but it took a vicious and clearly obvious turn for the worse since the Obama regime took over."  Eric Holder is Obama's Joseph Goebbels and he has been directing policy and practices (for the Border Patrol - AND others), which have deliberately made it easy for Mexican drug lords and associated illegals.

This should have been "fixed" 50 years ago.  It is no secret that Barack Hussein (first Muslim president) is opening the floodgates to register more "new" democratic voters.

For the life of me, the REAL question I have is: "Where is all of the American outrage against this idiot president?"  He will continue until checked.

On another issue, by pandering to Islam and not allowing the word "terrorists" to be used in reference to, uh, hm, TERRORISTS!, I think he is committing treason by aiding and abetting an enemy.. The asshole even said the problem with terrorists is they were poor and needed assistance - are you fu*$%ng kidding me??? 

What is the penalty for that?  Hanging, life in prison

In addition to the drool emoticon, increasingly we need a popcorn emoticon.  At least I do.

Quote from: sqlbullet on February 19 2015 03:58:12 PM MST
In addition to the drool emoticon, increasingly we need a popcorn emoticon.  At least I do.

Seconded 

Of course Buckeye, its all gotten worse since Obama got in.

Let me guess you started to pay attention to politics and immigration on January of 2009.

Now you accuse the president of treason, based on what? Letting 911 happen, invading Iraq that had nothing to do with 911 while killing 4600 troops and wasting 4 trillion.

Let me see, Obama is also responsible for the 2008 crash and gay marriage.

As for pandering to Islam, I have a long list of pandering that Bush did, but since he is white and GOP you had no problem with it.

Wolfie;

Things HAVE gotten much worse under our Muslim leader.  However, no one has had any real brass since Harry Truman so the list of cowards unwilling to do the right thing for this great country at the expense of their own careers is a long one.

Obama had NOTHING to do with the crash, but his handling of it was near criminal (spend our way out of debt??).  His regime is artificially pumping up the economy to make him look good.  When the Fed bond-buying and money printing and interest rate suppression is lifted we WILL hit a wall that will make 2008/2009 look like a head cold.

As far as race: I suspect many, many people are hoping they will blame his problems on the fact he is black.  Not me.  I say he is a fucking idiot only because he IS a fucking idiot irregardless of whether he is blue, orange or whatever.  Blaming it on race won't cut this - too convenient of an excuse.

Actually, when he was elected part of me kind of liked what he said during his campaign and acceptance speech.  I thought we may have finally come a long way to have a black man as president.  The part I hate is they turned out to be all lies that he blames on everyone else.

I didn't think George Bush was an effective leader either.  Just for the record, the presidents I have admired the most have been Truman, JFK and Ronald Reagan.  All had their faults but these guys were true LEADERS, I think with America's best interests at heart.

Maybe we should just stick to guns because nothing I feel or say will change anything?

Sorry Buckeye things have gotten better for me.

I have better healthcare.

My stocks have done very well.

I can now afford to buy whatever I want, including 5 10 mms this last year.

My property (Multiple) values are almost back to 2007 levels.

BUT, if Obama is not doing good enough, what is the GOP alternative for anything? If there is a better plan, let me know, I am willing to listen.

Well, there is Obamacare taxes.....which most won't feel it's bite until next year or maybe 2017...by design of course.

How much has Obama spent? How much more indebtedness have we gone encountered? Of course, the natural Dem response is Bush spent a bunch more......once again, trying to blame Bush.

The regulatory issues he has signed have placed a burden on many companies. Some analysts have estimated that by the time all of the regs are implemented, it will cost  the companies 3-7% of gross sales to maintain....which is ultimately passed onto the consumer either higher prices and/or elimination of people to fund the extra burdens.

The good times you have enjoyed are not a result of anything Obama has done, they are the result of a natural economy. There have been lots of speculation that if he would have not spent as much, stayed out of the regulatory issues and housing market, the economy would have excelled quicker.

Should we even address the job market.......unemployed/underemployed.

King Obama is not, and will not be considered a leader....at best a community organizer/meddler. Who knows, with the ISIS(L) deal, Jimmy Carter my surpass him on the presidential ranking.

Wow Baron Obama spent more?

Based on what?

Here are the facts, 2009 deficit was 1.8 Trillion its now around 600 billion a year, making Obama the biggest deficit cutter ever.

Debt, what did Obama add? 1 trillion on the Stimulus thats it, the rest is due to the GOP recession and putting the wars on the books.

Obama has been a very good president, you guys talk as if he took over at a time of peace and a good economy, but he took over 800,000 job losses a month, 9% contraction, 2 open wars and bin Laden on the lose.

He tunred all of that around with NO Republican help at all.

I will leave with 2 points for you to ponder.

1. Whats the GOP plan for anything.

2. Will the SEAL Team 6 signed mission flag in the OBL raid be a centerpiece of the Obama library or will it have its own wing? Because as we all know, you have to go back to Teddy Roosevelt to find a president that has one of those.

Just wait till he hands it off to Hillary.

Quote from: Wolfie on February 20 2015 10:00:05 AM MST
Wow Baron Obama spent more?

Based on what?

Here are the facts, 2009 deficit was 1.8 Trillion its now around 600 billion a year, making Obama the biggest deficit cutter ever.  Debt, not deficit. Learn the difference.

Debt, what did Obama add? 1 trillion on the Stimulus thats it, the rest is due to the GOP recession and putting the wars on the books. Again, review what debt is. National Debt is estimated to be 18 trillion....when King Obama came to power, it was around 10 trillion.

Obama has been a very good president (in what way, socializing the American economy), you guys talk as if he took over at a time of peace and a good economy, but he took over 800,000 job losses a month, 9% contraction, 2 open wars and bin Laden on the lose.  The underemployed and the true unemployed numbers tell a different story.

He tunred all of that around with NO Republican help at all. What did he do to turn it around?

I will leave with 2 points for you to ponder.

1. Whats the GOP plan for anything. Don't have a specific one, they weren't in charge...but the lip service was less gubbermit interference, less taxes and no national health care mandate.

2. Will the SEAL Team 6 signed mission flag in the OBL raid be a centerpiece of the Obama library or will it have its own wing? Because as we all know, you have to go back to Teddy Roosevelt to find a president that has one of those.

Just wait till he hands it off to Hillary.  Another sad time.....more blaming the US for the worlds problem. I wonder if she will use the terrorist in the same sentence with Islamic?

I've responded in red. You have drank from the koolaid. 

Facts

Debt is accumulated, deficits are yearly.

18 trillion is the current debt. Please list the 8 trillion Obama added, I have him on the hook for the 1 trillion Stimulus, can you tell me what the other 7 trillion was spent on? Its putting the wars on the book and the blowback from the GOP Great Recession.

Socialism? You jest, Obama did one socialist program the ACA which is actually the GOP counter to Hillarycare in 1994. Bush and the GOP created the following socialist programs:

No Child Left Behind

Nation Building

Patriot Act

Prescription Drugs

Medicare Plus

YES the GOP is the true socialist party.

Now that the GOP ran and won, what is their plan for anything? They have NO plan.

The ACA made by plan much better, I can never go bankrupt and if you had resources you would understand how good that is. It freed up a lot of capital that I saved for emergencies. That allowed me to buy another Muscle Car a bike and a bunch of handguns among other things.

Obama is 100% correct in not attaching Islam to Terrorism, you guys want to legitimize them, but what am I talking about, Cowboy GOP style diplomacy is the way to go. Never mind war for 10 years and the same troops going in and out are being hammered, as long as we talk tough and send someone elses kid to die while their kids make money on the war, all is well.

Teddy Roosevelt the last great GOP president had a saying, talk softly and carry a big stick.

Thats exactly how Obama operates, you can yearn for GOP nonsense but I am no fool.

Quote from: Wolfie on February 20 2015 01:44:32 PM MST
Facts

Debt is accumulated, deficits are yearly.

18 trillion is the current debt. Please list the 8 trillion Obama added, I have him on the hook for the 1 trillion Stimulus, can you tell me what the other 7 trillion was spent on? It putting the wars on the book and the blowback from the GOP Great Recession.

Socialism? You jest, Obama did one socialist program the ACA which is actually the GOP counter to Hillarycare in 1994. Bush and the GOP created the following socialist programs:

No Child Left Behind

Nation Building

Patriot Act

Prescription Drugs

Medicare Plus

YES the GOP is the true socialist party.

Now that the GOP ran and won, what is their plan for anything? They have NO plan.

The AVA made by plan much better, I can never go bankrupt and if you had resources you would understand how good that is. It freed up a lot of capital that I saved for emergencies. That allowed me to buy another Muscle Car a bike and a bunch of handguns among other things.

Obama is 100% correct in not attaching Islam to Terrorism, you guys want to legitimize them, but what am I talking about, Cowboy GOP style diplomacy is the way to go. Never mind war for 10 years and the same troops going in and out are being hammered, as long as we talk tough and send someone elses kid to die while their kids make money on the war, all is well.

Teddy Roosevelt the last great GOP president had a saying, talk softly and carry a big stick.

Thats exactly how Obama operates, you can yearn for GOP nonsense but I am no fool.

Wolfie.....lay off the koolaid. It'll help your blood pressure.

As for the debt...you ask him, I have no idea and I doubt most everyone else doesn't know either.......stats show when he took office with 10 trillion; now it is up 18 trillion.

WOW....are you sure you understand socialist? what you've stated and what they are don't match. Have repubs introduced things, yep.....and you are taking the actions of 3 R presidents (20 year span with a Dem that helped too) to come up with that list of social programs. Some were already in place, just expanded upon. There are several I wish we could do without.....but when has the gubbermit revoked a social program? right Never!

Again....blaming Bush is the standard for dems.....it's all because of Bush....it all because what Bush did....yada yada yada! It's it so comical now....No Dems takes responsibility....but it's Bush's fault! LOL!!!

The GOP has sent a balanced budget to King Obama...hmmmmm...so far he hasn't signed it. You know what a balanced budget is, right...one that doesn't run any deficits, which in turn don't add to the national debt. 

You need to look at Obama's EOs and EMs to see his 'other' programs. Interestingly, this amnesty bill is one.

What do the Dems have on the plate to reduce the deficits? Debt? the massive overreach of Obamacare (which you will dislike in a year or so)? What are their plans for boosting employment and reducing underemployment? Spend more money.....trust them to govern everything from Washington?

The Dems have had the House/Senate & WH to really lead this country...what have we gotten....huge loss of the middle class, overly burden regulations, more taxes (my taxes are up $1,800 over last year with the same deductions and approx income), the highest underemployment ever, an economy that is slushing along....yep....the Dems have done a lot for this country!

Later Wolfie......enjoy the koolaid.