Don't get me going on monetary policy.

The Federal Reserve needs to go, I will leave it at that.

I'm old enough to remember the Marial Boat Lift.

You are saying romney is the same or worse than obama but romney had said he wouldnt push for any new gun laws and his party nationally is opposed to any more restrictions.   It is clear as crystal.  You are also giving obama the chance to stack the federal courts against us as well as the supreme court.  Getting mad about what romney said 10 years ago in an uber rabid dem state is plain losing the war because you dont like what a general said 10 years ago so you order his troops be executed.  Romney represented a different status quo. Besides mass still gets pre ban AR's cant have that in Cali so it is better than here for certain aspects.

He did not have right on the front of his campaign site "an assault weapons ban renewal"
He didnt push for the saiga 12 import ban
He didnt ban 7n6 imports
He didnt urge harry reid to stop the reciprocity bill
He wasnt lying up a storm about "background checks" like 0 does (90% bs)
He didnt appoint two anti gun judges to the supreme court

Do you need any more proof?


I think you have some well deserved discontent against your states reeps but that sure as heck isnt worth keeping the rabid anti gun loon in office.

Romney changed his position to suit his needs.

I do not trust people that do that.

You can trust a man that was Pro Gay, Pro Abortion and Anti Gun and then said he was a severe conservative.

You are very forgiving mag.

We normalized relations with Viet Nam in 20 years after wars end......

How is Cuba different?

Quote from: The Earl o Sammich on December 20 2014 04:25:34 PM MST
We normalized relations with Viet Nam in 20 years after wars end......

How is Cuba different?

Many more who became american citizens had their all their savings and properties outright stolen by castro's government... if my stepdads family could at least reclaim what was stolen land wise, it would be an entirely different matter from my view point.

Quote from: Wolfie on December 20 2014 02:06:20 PM MST
Romney changed his position to suit his needs.

I do not trust people that do that.

You can trust a man that was Pro Gay, Pro Abortion and Anti Gun and then said he was a severe conservative.

You are very forgiving mag.

You are getting hung up on that. All politicians do it. Potential Supreme court appointees alone make romney better.

Sorry, I believe in Duty Honor and Country.

I could never support a man like Romney who advocated for Vietnam and then went on to skip the war in a French mansion.

He was asked why none of 5 sons were serving their country, he said they were by getting him elected president.

I get hung up on things like that, as for the Supreme Court they consider corporations people and unlimited cash free speech, great men like Teddy Roosevelt fought the oligarchy while these guys today on both sides are owned by them.

Go ahead and nominate another squish and have Hillary take 400 Electoral College votes.

Quote from: Wolfie on December 20 2014 02:06:20 PM MST
Romney changed his position to suit his needs.

I do not trust people that do that.

That's what a politician....ANY politician...does.

If they weren't all crooks they wouldn't run.

I'm more of a Ron Paul guy and he has been very consistent.

Just another shell game, any monies going to Cuba will go to the government. How do you think these poor communist peasants are going to buy American goods based on the dollar. Just another Obama shell game  Jonathan Gruber is 100% correct, that's how this race baiter president was elected twice.

It's only down from here.

Quote from: Wolfie on December 20 2014 11:08:11 PM MST
Sorry, I believe in Duty Honor and Country.

I could never support a man like Romney who advocated for Vietnam and then went on to skip the war in a French mansion.

He was asked why none of 5 sons were serving their country, he said they were by getting him elected president.

I get hung up on things like that, as for the Supreme Court they consider corporations people and unlimited cash free speech, great men like Teddy Roosevelt fought the oligarchy while these guys today on both sides are owned by them.

Go ahead and nominate another squish and have Hillary take 400 Electoral College votes.

Wolfie....your purity is admirable....however, you are talking politics. Politics is a different beast....has been for thousands of years, as long as man has been around, politics has been there. The Roman Empire got a lot of credit for promoting politics; however, it was around before then, it just became more knowledgeable through them.

Politics of today is not much different than what it was back then up to now. The major difference between now and then, we have almost instant access to information, 24/7.....therefore, it make it seem worse now than back 15, 25, 35, 45, 55+ years ago, but it really isn't.

In politics, it's like playing chess with several moves ahead with options for each move. Politics will not change.....how you play in the game is how you get things done....either way, you play politics.

As for Romney, IIRC, the reason he signed the gun legislation was to prevent stricter legislation...he signed the renewal of the existing gun restrictions with a few less restrictions. If he had not signed it (vetoed it), the legislators very possibly would have overode the renewal he vetoed with stricter guidelines. He served his people like a politician.

Quote from: The Earl o Sammich on December 20 2014 04:25:34 PM MST
We normalized relations with Viet Nam in 20 years after wars end......

How is Cuba different?

We actually never fought a war with them?

At least not officially.

I want to go there and but a 59 Chevy!  It is a time machine for classic cars. 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jeb-bush-resigns-company-cashed-obamacare-article-1.2056971

Jeb Bush makes money on Obamacare and is now running for president against it.

But his stock holders were served, now that he is back in politics all is forgiven.