Have you found your ammo breaking point?

Started by Intercooler, April 22 2014 03:09:12 PM MDT

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denclaste

The only 10mm I buy is Win Silvertips. I've been reloading for over 23 years now. I load to near Norma spec and will continue to do so. Already gone thru the first 1000 10mm I loaded and am working on the second batch. Since I shoot weekly year around theres no way I could buy ammo. Besides all my long range completion rifles are hand loads. I guess each person has to decide which way they want to go.

Rojo27

Happened to notice PBR has chanced their 180gr velocity supreme FMJ prices again.  In March of this year they went from $26.40 for 50 rounds up to $30; and now they're asking $28.90 for 50.

Pinsnscrews

I don't mind buying the occasional box of 6.5-284 from HSM, but it has more to do with the cost and availability of the brass.

For the initial 100 rounds through my RIA, the $60 was a bit steep, but since I was able to recover all but 1 case, I will suck it up and reload without really complaining. .

As for space, I have used a fold up work table like this:


With a 2x6 C-Clamped to the top and the press bolted to the 2x6, it was plenty solid, even for forming .357 Herret brass from 30-30, and .222 Rem from .223 brass.

You are only limited by your own creativity when it comes to the space management.
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Buckeye 50

OK, I give.  What would the total cost be to get all of the loading equip for 10 (and then 357 sig)?  I mean, what I am looking at here in $$'s?

Pat
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gandog56

Only reached the breaking point once. I (for some STUPID reason) tried some copper plated bullets in my .454 Casull. Needless to say the lead blew right out of the copper plating and the plating shreds became pieces of shrapnel flying every which way, including back at my face. Cut me up a bit. Awful glad I was wearing some good quality shooting glasses!. Lesson learned: Don't push copper plated bullets faster than 1500 fps!
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

sqlbullet

Quote from: Buckeye 50 on September 18 2014 04:46:05 PM MDT
OK, I give.  What would the total cost be to get all of the loading equip for 10 (and then 357 sig)?  I mean, what I am looking at here in $$'s?

Pat

You can load perfectly fine ammo on the low end with Lee gear.  I think about the best option is one of Lee's starter kits.  A breech lock kit + 10mm 3 die set from factory sales is $135.88 + shipping.  A set of 357 Sig dies are another $32.

And RCBS Rockchucker Supreme with Lee Carbide dies from Midsouth is $308.67 + shipping (may be free shipping).

The Lee kit will work fine.  I have a friend who has loaded his entire life on a Lee kit.  The RCBS press is stronger, the hand prime a little better made and the scale inspires more confidence, though is not more accurate. 

I actually have both.  There are some things I try from time to time that the RCBS press is nice to have.  But I am a tinkerer.  For instance, I once swaged some 40 S&W brass down to .401" outside diameter and formed bullets from them.  The Lee press would not have been up to that task.

But for basic reloading, the Lee kit is definitely the least expensive, serviceable way to get into reloading.  You will make back your investment in the first 500 rounds you load, assuming you have been saving your brass and don't have to buy.

500 rounds PBR @ 28.90/50 = 289.00

Lee Breechlock Kit + 10mm Dies = 135.88
500 Zero 200 FMJ = 66
1 lb Alliant Powder = 20
1000 primers = 35
Total:  $265.88

If you have to buy 1000 starline brass, it will be 1000 rounds before you pass break even.

Pinsnscrews

If you want basic, entry level. Get the job done Wilma reloading, all of Lee's equipment is available through http://www.titanreloading.com at very good prices.

I bought the Value Turret Press Kit, and haven't looked back. It has done everything I need with room left over... I bought an extra turret so I have 1 turret dedicated to 10mm, and another turret that I interchange dies with.

To this I have added the Hornady Locking rings. All my dies are set to where they need to be, and locked in with the Hornady rings. For 10mm, I just swap turrets and I am all set to go.

I purchased a Universal Decapping die, and an electronic scale, which ended up being less accurate than the balance beam scale that came with the Lee kit. I have not set up the thru die powder measure yet, as I prefer to hand measure each load.
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gandog56

Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?