Have you found your ammo breaking point?

Started by Intercooler, April 22 2014 03:09:12 PM MDT

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Yondering

Quote from: Intercooler on April 27 2014 07:58:51 AM MDT
Plated bullets, cast your own? I realize the big savings would be cheaper bullets than a FMJ or TMJ. What are you using?

Cast my own. It's almost free, since I recover and re-use my lead, but the 10-12 cents per round includes $1/lb for the lead.

Half of the savings is in re-using the brass.

The reloading cost doesn't change much whether the loads are mild or wild. You sound concerned about reloading hot loads, but a lot of those Underwood loads you like are hotter than most sensible people would handload.

Intercooler

I wouldn't load to those levels myself. I'm happy with any of the weights being right at about 600lb's when you plug them in a calculator.

Geeman

Yes, I have.

That's why I reload.

I can make Jacketed with new Starline brass at around $17 per 50 rounds.

I can reload that brass at around $8 per 50.

The real benefit is its made to spec.  If its a little hot, drop it a couple tenths of a grain.  Not hot enough, maybe try a different powder to see if you can tweak the load to deliver that little extra safely. 

The challenge is when you have more than one gun shooting the same caliber and keeping max loads from the gun that can handle more out of the gun that shows pressure signs at lower charge weights.

Greg

Rojo27


No question about it; there are NUMEROUS benefits and advantages to loading your own 10mm ammunition.  Under the right circumstances and shooting volume, loading your own is hands down the most economical way to go.  I would however respectfully point to Grim Reaper's post from a couple years ago concerning the mission statement of this forum: 

Quote from: Grim Reaper on June 10 2012 03:24:37 AM MDT
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I started this site to provide a forum for fans of the 10mm auto cartridge and the firearms chambered for it. There are no forums specifically for the 10mm. Plenty of forums out there have areas set aside for 10mm talk, however they are loaded with people that want to make inappropriate comments or start drama.
It should be our goal to promote the 10mm to gun and ammunition manufacturers, as well as spread the word to other people about this awesome cartridge.
100% advertisement free. No stupid ads cluttering the site. I'm not doing this for money. I will never ask for donations.
Enjoy the site.

Although I'm a newcomer to the 10mm platform, it's a fantastic cartridge and I'd like to see it thrive.  Grim Reaper hit on the key and I think he was right back when he set "promoting the 10mm to gun and ammunition manufactures" as the point of the forum.

gandog56

I don't know. I started reloading about 35 years ago because I just bought a Taurus Model 66 and .357 ammo was just so darned expensive. And then I found out how much cheaper it was to reload .38 special cast DEWC rounds as practice fodder for the .357. Now of course the only ammo I don't reload is the .22 LR.
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

Rojo27

After months of uniform .60 to .75 per round pricing for plinking ammo by all online retailers, noticed something interesting yesterday...
Georgia Arms posted some new 10mm 180 grain FMJ's at decent .41 to .44 per price point (some of which I purchased by the way).  Followed very shortly (literally with hours) by Ammo Supply Warehouse dropping their Armscor 10mm to same price... ::)

No doubts just a random coincidence. 

It'll be interesting to see if those two suppliers quickly exhaust inventory and overall price point remains high or if we see other 10mm plinking ammo suppliers slide back too.

gandog56

I wonder who really makes brass for Armscor?
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

Gramaton Cleric

My wife told me not to buy anything else until we get a house. SO its tough as 10mm isn't cheap, but I mainly use the 10 as my hunting platform but I feel the need to practice and without rds it sucks. Being a college student sucks too but I'm almost done and once I start working more life will get a smidge easier. At this point I buy what I can when I can and shoot 9mm and 5.56 till i get the wife her house .......then the real work begins lol.
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tommac919

Quote from: Gramaton Cleric on May 13 2014 03:06:32 PM MDT
My wife told me not to buy anything else until we get a house...snip..At this point I buy what I can when I can and shoot 9mm and 5.56 till i get the wife her house .

wow, there's a younger person out there that's willing to wait and save for something they want...wow

SagSlim59

Quote from: tommac919 on May 13 2014 03:24:15 PM MDT
Quote from: Gramaton Cleric on May 13 2014 03:06:32 PM MDT
My wife told me not to buy anything else until we get a house...snip..At this point I buy what I can when I can and shoot 9mm and 5.56 till i get the wife her house .

wow, there's a younger person out there that's willing to wait and save for something they want...wow



Hat tip to you, G Cleric

wadcutter



Some people don't have the room or feel like fooling with it. Do you load to the extreme end such as Underwood or Buffalo Bore? Hopefully you never make a mistake and have a KABOOM .

I trust my hand loads more than any boutique manufacturers loaded to the max ammo. Even if I didn't reload I wouldn't touch the ultra hot boutique ammo with a ten foot pole.  I've seen enough pictures of kaboomed guns that used boutique ammo to know better.   I load for accuracy anyway and rarely if ever do I need to load to the brink of destruction.

pacapcop

Your ok with Norma Spec loads or close to it. My choice for the most part. I don't think U/W's 180's or 165's are over the top. if one can get 165's in JHP.

wadcutter

The original Norma ammo was quite hot and was hard on the early 10mm firearms but shouldn't be a problem in the right gun.

The_Shadow

Quote from: wadcutter on June 30 2014 01:34:04 PM MDT
The original Norma ammo was quite hot and was hard on the early 10mm firearms but shouldn't be a problem in the right gun.

I might be in disagreement just a little, as some guns were not designed properly for the true power of the 10mm cartridge.  Yes NORMA was at the upper end and their quality control was not very tight as loaded.  They had some variations in charge weights. ???

Many guns did handle the power of the cartridge very well, others not so much.  The main thing was lockup, slide mass/velocity, cartridge chamber support and recoil system.
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