Gotcha. Sounds like a keeper!

I have to agree with BEEMER the P380 is the best shooting 380 I owned, accurate and comfortable to shoot and very easy to conceal (not quite as easy as the LWS380 but you didn't mind practicing with the Kahr)

Quote from: DM1906 on September 08 2013 03:00:47 PM MDT
Pocket pistols are belly guns. Don't sweat the sights. Any sights. If you're far enough away you need sights, you're out of range. You should be able to hit COM at 7 yds, blindfolded. If not, you or the pistol is not up to the task.

Really? FYI I own a little TCP Taurus .380 that I shoot quite respectably with. Took out a big 100+ lb Bull Mastiff with it at 10 feet last year that had grabbed my dog by the neck while I was walking him on a reel leash. I put 2 rounds of 95 grain +P .380 Corebond JHP's on target and the big bull down for good . COM at 7 yards is not a problem trust me. Heck if you are within 30 yards of me and I'm shooting at you with the little TCP you are in world of HURT!! 

Quote from: yankee2500 on January 30 2014 10:06:58 AM MST
I have been carrying my Rohrbaugh 9mm since 2009, great pocket pistol. All metal construction, small, light and 9mm.

I like those carbon-fiber grips on the Rohrbaugh.  Do you have any reliability issues with this BUG?  I read on the Rohrbaugh Forum, some of these pistols were hit, or miss.  I ask, because these are awfully expensive little pups.

Range day was great with the 9mm SCCY Gen2 DAO. Anybody who doubts this pistol  should give it a try. I speak only for their Gen 2. This is no doubt the best buy and affordable pocket type pistol on market that really works. It's snappy a little, but were 10mm folks, so snappy means nothing. This pistol has been torture tested and is proven. Their Gen 1's had some issues, but they reengineered the faults and their Gen 2's are sweet. lifetime warranty that go's with gun, not just the orig buyer. Moss Gun Shop did some videos on You tube. These are double stack also. 10 rnds.

Any pics?

Since this thread has revived a bit  I'll put in my 2 cents for the LCR, chambered for 357 but I carry 38 +p in it. Very lightweight, excellent DAO trigger, easily concealed. 

I also like having a revolver for a BUG so that I don't get confused reaching for the wrong mag under stress - no mistaking the speed-strips of 38 for a mag! - and also you can do some things that might not be prudent with an auto: shoot it through a pocket, shoot in contact with an assailant, things like that.

Glock 26 or 29 AIWB, and the LCR in a Desantis Intruder IWB, strongside 4-5 o'clock - I can access that LCR with either hand. 

This is not exactly a pocket gun, but close to it.

I exchanged emails with Arne Boberg and he hopes to be shipping completed pistols in the next couple of weeks.  I have one ordered in the first shipment.  It should be interesting.


http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/05/27/boberg-arms-xr45-subcompact-45-full-sized-performance/

Quote from: BEEMER! on May 28 2014 12:35:13 PM MDT
This is not exactly a pocket gun, but close to it.

I exchanged emails with Arne Boberg and he hopes to be shipping completed pistols in the next couple of weeks.  I have one ordered in the first shipment.  It should be interesting.

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/05/27/boberg-arms-xr45-subcompact-45-full-sized-performance/

I've been contemplating one as well. I have their XR9-S "Shorty" and do carry it some. It's about the same weight and width and the Kahr CM9, which I also have. The XR45 might be a bit much at 22oz empty, but it's still smaller than most anything out there. And Boberg reeks of quality, which is hard to argue with. But at a price. I suppose for those that simply 'must have' a .45 on them, this is a likely candidate. The XR9-S is the softest shooter by far, and I expect the XR45 will be the same. I still seem to reach for the Diamondback DB9 most of the time, just because it's so danged light and thin. I need to shut up now. I'm starting to justify yet another purchase! LOL   

I have to admit that I have never been a fan of small 45's, but this one is different.

I agree with you on the price, but I still had to try one.  i really admire Arne's innovation and engineering expertise.  His designs are the most innovative firearms since the Glocks were introduced.

Below is an explanation of why the recoil is reduced on Boberg's XR series of pistols.  I found it very interesting.  I have seen a video of Arne shooting an XR9 without the recoil spring even in the pistol.  He just flips the pistol forward after a shot to return the slide



the XR series does not use a recoil spring... the spring that runs the length of the slide is simply a slide return spring. you could toss it in the trash and shoot he pistol the rest of your life, you would just need to slap the slide forward manually.

in the XR series, the recoil is being absorbed by the lift mechanism and the rotating barrel mechanism. these are FAR more efficient at absorbing energy than a simple heavily packed recoil spring and a bunch of extra weight on the slide could ever do. that is how we are the softest felt recoil .45 and 9mm subcompact out there!

There's also the Zytel grips that are, by design, intended to flex to absorb some of the felt recoil. It's been the only "pocket" gun that I've been able to shoot for an extended period of time without having to wrap my trigger finger with a bandage or wear gloves. Even with +P ammo. It's that good, as those that have shot one would know.  It's also a 7+1 system compared to most others at 6+1 (but not a deal breaker for me). I really like the way they managed to get another round in the magazine by not using a traditional style follower, just the exposed mag spring. No follower at all unless you purchase the optional one, which is just a piece of metal that doesn't interfere with the rounds the mag will hold. Very cool. Arne is simply more than an engineer. He's an enthusiast that's been at this since he was barely a teenager, and as an adult, finally gave up the corporate engineering world to pursue his dream. How great is that, while the rest of us can only dream about his pursuits.

This thing looks pretty amazing. What are they about a grand? Lol! I might have to throw my CM9 in the trash.
Stockboss, has that DB9 been problem free? 2 years ago when I was looking at pocket nines, I was considering one but found too much bad publicity for it.

Quote from: Dave84 on May 28 2014 07:20:53 PM MDT
This thing looks pretty amazing. What are they about a grand? Lol! I might have to throw my CM9 in the trash.
Stockboss, has that DB9 been problem free? 2 years ago when I was looking at pocket nines, I was considering one but found too much bad publicity for it.

Yeah man, they've had a miserable initial run a few years back. That's what happens when you design such lightweights when you're brand new to the firearms engineering world. But, as of late, and from what I've seen, DB is serious about their commitment and has made some major moves in improving the engineering of those tiny guns. The one I have has been through some revamping and so far has proven to be flawless. Doesn't mean it's fun to shoot, but it's not all that bad. I do wear gloves if I'm going through more than a couple mags worth, but others may handle it better than I can. lol. I feel pretty confident that it will perform well as a carry piece, and not too worried about the companies history in getting through all this. I think if they sat on their hands during the early stages of design, they would have been gone by now. Look at the introduction of the Glock 42. What a disaster! And it's a much larger gun than the DB9 and it's just a 380. Those tiny suckers are an awakening for the engineers! But that's what most people want. Tiny for concealment, and the manufacturers eventually resolve their early problems. Hopefully.


How do you like that CM9? Mine's been flawless so far.

I really like mine. Has only ever ftf twice out of over 1000 rounds. For whatever reason they both occurred first round of the extended 8 rd factory mag. The 6 rd mag is flawless. Shoots quite well for being double action. This is what I usually carry when I don't have the benefit of a jacket.

I got a Kel-Tec when they first started chambering them in 380 in early 2004.  I have put a wide variety of ammo through mine with no malfunctions.  I carry mine in a Uncle Mike's holster made for a J frame Smith.  In the back pocket of any pants or shorts it looks like a wallet.