It occurs to me that maybe I should post the gelatin test results that I've done for other calibers. Big thanks to Intercooler as he provided the ammunition for most of the tests that I've done. Hope you enjoy.

Can't wait to see what 1400 FPS looks like. Not bad!

This one goes DEEP!

That Extreme shock in 45 is no joke. I know many people don't take that ammo seriously but it sure looked good in the gel.

I disagree. I know it's hard to tell in the pictures but all that really happened was that it created a very large, shallow wound and the portions that made it deeper were very low mass. It might look bad but I wouldn't put my faith in it. It's not enough that a bullet technically pass the 12" mark. It needs to do so with enough mass and diameter to poke big holes in vital organs. Gold Dot or HST is the way to go, IMHO.

Gotcha. That piece that penetrated does look insignificant from the pictures.

Thanks for the testing, The HST bullets are bad to the bone...

Beat me to it.

40 S&W 180 gr Speer Gold Dot loaded over 9.2 gr of AA#7 fired from a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 carbine and Glock model 22 pistol through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB: 593.6 fps, 3.4"

Pistol data:

Impact velocity: 1,081 fps
Penetration: 14.5"
Retained weight: 179.7 gr
Max expansion: 0.741"
Min expansion: 0.492"

Carbine data:

Impact velocity: 1,320 fps (approx.)
Penetration: 16.6"
Retained weight: 178.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.781"
Min expansion: 0.538"


A few notes: The chronograph did not catch the impact velocity from the carbine shot so I took a four shot average. Velocities were:

1,312 fps
1,317 fps
1,327 fps
1,324 fps

I was surprised at how much velocity the bullet gained from the longer barrel and I was surprised to note that the faster bullet actually went deeper. I had to double check. The only explanation I can come up with is that the extra velocity pushed the petals back against the shank earlier.

Speer lists the factory velocity as 1,025 from a pistol so I believe that I got fairly close to what they put out but I do not know what powder they use so the burn rate could be substantially different. I did not have any extra factory ammo available for testing.

  Extra 180gr Gold Dots? Let me look and see if I have something to send.