Is 10mm too much?

Started by Raggedyman, January 31 2014 10:58:49 PM MST

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Raggedyman


DenStinett

The beauty of the 10mm is you can tone it down, a bit closer to the 40cal, and still have to potential of runnin' with the "Big Dogs"
So tell me again how Trump was worse then the 8 years before .... AND what came after HIM !

4949shooter

#2
Yep.

Too much money, maybe. But that's about it.

Edit: I commented on the article. Same is awaiting moderation.  Oops, not realizing the article was written by Andrew himself, I invited him to join us here.  :P

Geeman

Yep, too much.

Got a Glock, looking for upper level Witness.  Getting a T/C barrel too. Too many pistols at too much money.

Brass becomes available.  Cheaper by the thousand.  Yep, tou got it.  Too much brass.

Bullets, my shelf is bending under the load of all that lead.  Way too much lead.

Pistol Power, 800X, Longshot .....  1#, might run out, four pounders are better so eight is better, so eight it is!!!

Ever heard of the legendary Underwood.  do you have the nerves of steel to shoot the best.  It cheaper to spread the shipping over several boxes, don't uou know!!!

Hell yes its too much.  Too much fun that is!!! ;D ;D ;D

Greg

Intercooler


enidpd804

Warren

The_Shadow

#6
Great job with the article, its all about choice of bullet weight/performance and practice and proficiency... 8)

This is the response I wrote to Kraftcheck's quesstion...http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo/grain-for-grain-in-the-10mm/
QuoteWell, the energy is not the total answer in any bullet equation...the reason is that if the lighter or heavier faster bullet zips right through the intended target, much of that energy, is then wasted.

Finding a balance of bullet performance/construction...velocity, energy, expansion, penetration, temporary & permanent cavities, does the bullet fragment and does it exit before dumping most all its energy!

Let's step back and look at the 45ACP at 250 grains @ 850 fps and slow as it goes it still carries like a sledge hammer.  It was considered effective for up close and personal!

Personally I like the fact that the heavier bullet carries its energy deeper, not just a surface or shallow energy dump.  But then again the lighter bullet if constructed properly could deliver great performance as well.  So then we have to consider the target, and what the bullets may encounter dealing with the performance...heavy/light clothing, heavy/light body mass and what other things that could play into the mix, shielding and/or distance.

But both of those weight bullets 155 gr and 180 gr as a HST, Gold Dot, Ranger T would still be a defensive bullet!  8)
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Raggedyman

Good post, Shadow. Also remember that at handgun velocities, tissues that are pushed out of the way in the temporary cavity simply stretch and return to position. Much of the energy is spent on simply moving elastic tissue. In pure physics terms, the kinetic energy is dissipated as heat with no real damage to the tissue.

The experts agree that you need about 2,000 fps before TSC starts being a significant wounding factor. I've heard people make the point, though, that it's possible that there is some intermediate speed attainable with magnum handgun calibers where even though TSC doesn't actually exceed the elastic limit of tissue and cause damage, it may contribute to a psychological stop. A punch to the stomach may not cause any substantive tissue damage but it can certainly cause a lot of pain and take a lot of fight out of a person. That is purely hypothetical, of course, but it seems to make sense.

yankee2500

Andrew, I enjoyed the article and welcome to the forum.
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HammersD

Nice job and very well written.  I enjoyed the read very much.   :)

DAVIDF

Andrew, very nice article. I liked your reply in the comments about raising awareness. An M1 carbine in 10mm would be awesome. That would be a great project for Ruger!