Great idea.  But it got me thinking of something alone that line.
I have a steam cleaner. I bet, that it would work if I layed them on a screen,
and sprayed them down, until they are clean.

Quote from: Caneman on January 02 2014 08:18:56 AM MST
here is my first attempt at shake-n-bake powder coating, these are 10mm 200gr wfn, boolits on the right are gloss clear coat, both are 3 coats:

Looks good! Is that the Mihec bullet? I like that one too, especially with the shallow cone hollow points.

FYI (for everyone) - check your oven temp with a thermometer. I did, and found I need to run my toaster oven at the highest setting (~550* indicated) to reach the required 400 degrees. Also, keep in mind the bullets won't reach temp immediately, so you'll want to extend the baking time. I'm baking them for 15 minutes now at 400 degrees (my powder says 400/10 min), although I was getting good results before so the curing process must be pretty flexible.

^^^ its the NOE mold with pins for 200gr WFN and 180gr HP

TEFLON SLIP GLOSS BLACK
http://www.shop.allpowderpaints.com/TEFLON-SLIP-BLACK-TSSB39344.htm?productId=1026
I like this one-check it out..
Doug
http://www.shop.allpowderpaints.com/TEFLON-SLIP-BLACK-TSSB39344.htm?productId=1026

^^^ couple things to consider that may or may not be factors:  1) if the paint has teflon in it could it be considered a "cop killer" bullet and illegal?  2)  guys on the cast boolits forum are suggesting black may be a color to avoid for coating bullets because the color additive may act like an abrasive on your barrel...

Quote from: ShadeTreeVTX on January 02 2014 05:01:05 PM MST
TEFLON SLIP GLOSS BLACK
http://www.shop.allpowderpaints.com/TEFLON-SLIP-BLACK-TSSB39344.htm?productId=1026
I like this one-check it out..
Doug
http://www.shop.allpowderpaints.com/TEFLON-SLIP-BLACK-TSSB39344.htm?productId=1026

Good find. I'm a little concerned about teflon in high heat situations though, the fumes can be highly poisonous. I've been hoping to find a powder like this with moly instead of teflon. Don't know if it exists?

Quote from: Caneman on January 02 2014 04:39:53 PM MST
^^^ its the NOE mold with pins for 200gr WFN and 180gr HP

Have you tried a coat of clear over the yellow? I've heard it changes the look a bit.

Quote from: Caneman on January 02 2014 05:24:36 PM MSTguys on the cast boolits forum are suggesting black may be a color to avoid for coating bullets because the color additive may act like an abrasive on your barrel...

The standard industrial black pigment is soot and no, it's not abrasive. That's a machinists' tale based on the fact that every machinist knows a guy who knows a guy who had to turn something from "graphite", which is actually compressed graphite containing a mineral binder, the latter being abrasive. Also, soot in motor oil preferentially adsorbs anti-wear additives, reducing their effectiveness and thus indirectly increasing wear.

Quote from: Marc on January 03 2014 03:44:23 PM MST

Quote from: Caneman on January 02 2014 05:24:36 PM MSTguys on the cast boolits forum are suggesting black may be a color to avoid for coating bullets because the color additive may act like an abrasive on your barrel...

The standard industrial black pigment is soot and no, it's not abrasive. That's a machinists' tale based on the fact that every machinist knows a guy who knows a guy who had to turn something from "graphite", which is actually compressed graphite containing a mineral binder, the latter being abrasive. Also, soot in motor oil preferentially adsorbs anti-wear additives, reducing their effectiveness and thus indirectly increasing wear.

i dunno, they got some chemists and engineers weighing on this and they seem convincing, reviewing msds sheets and such, judge for yourself:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?222947-Strange-problem-encountered-with-PD-d-bullets

Quote from: Yondering on January 03 2014 02:35:31 PM MST

Quote from: Caneman on January 02 2014 04:39:53 PM MST
^^^ its the NOE mold with pins for 200gr WFN and 180gr HP

Have you tried a coat of clear over the yellow? I've heard it changes the look a bit.

not yet, but i plan to do that as well... ordered some kawasaki green as i like the way yours look...

on the CB forum they seem to suggest using PC that cures below 400F so the lead won't anneal... on the allpowderpaints.com site they list the temp and cure time for all their paints and you can find many that cure in the 350F range...

i 'accidentally'  ordered an Accurate Molds 200gr wfn mold today, takes 2-3 weeks to get made then shipped... Tom, the owner/operator makes fantastic molds, i have a 10mm 220gr that i really like made by him as well

Quote from: Caneman on January 03 2014 04:48:28 PM MST

Quote from: Marc on January 03 2014 03:44:23 PM MST

Quote from: Caneman on January 02 2014 05:24:36 PM MSTguys on the cast boolits forum are suggesting black may be a color to avoid for coating bullets because the color additive may act like an abrasive on your barrel...

The standard industrial black pigment is soot and no, it's not abrasive. That's a machinists' tale based on the fact that every machinist knows a guy who knows a guy who had to turn something from "graphite", which is actually compressed graphite containing a mineral binder, the latter being abrasive. Also, soot in motor oil preferentially adsorbs anti-wear additives, reducing their effectiveness and thus indirectly increasing wear.

i dunno, they got some chemists and engineers weighing on this and they seem convincing, reviewing msds sheets and such, judge for yourself:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?222947-Strange-problem-encountered-with-PD-d-bullets

I see few blaming soot (aka carbon black), but silica and quartz have been pointed out and those are most certainly abrasive.

Quote from: Marc on January 04 2014 03:40:28 AM MST

Quote from: Caneman on January 03 2014 04:48:28 PM MST

Quote from: Marc on January 03 2014 03:44:23 PM MST

Quote from: Caneman on January 02 2014 05:24:36 PM MSTguys on the cast boolits forum are suggesting black may be a color to avoid for coating bullets because the color additive may act like an abrasive on your barrel...

The standard industrial black pigment is soot and no, it's not abrasive. That's a machinists' tale based on the fact that every machinist knows a guy who knows a guy who had to turn something from "graphite", which is actually compressed graphite containing a mineral binder, the latter being abrasive. Also, soot in motor oil preferentially adsorbs anti-wear additives, reducing their effectiveness and thus indirectly increasing wear.

i dunno, they got some chemists and engineers weighing on this and they seem convincing, reviewing msds sheets and such, judge for yourself:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?222947-Strange-problem-encountered-with-PD-d-bullets

I see few blaming soot (aka carbon black), but silica and quartz have been pointed out and those are most certainly abrasive.

And the silica and quartz seem to be mostly used as matting agents to reduce gloss, if I understand correctly? Seems like the problem may be with the flat/matte coatings, rather than the black color.

Well I ordered 500rds of 180 gr TCFN from Byou Bullets  and should have them in about 5 days, Than I;m going to give than h^ll in the G29 and maybe the G20 -just to see for myself how well they hold in the Glock barrels and the LW barrels - by the way - does anyone know of anyone who sells hard cast hollow point bullets in 180 and 200 gr?? maybe I could set up a jig and drill some of my 220 gr hard cast into hollow points- Hmmmmmm

ps what do you think Shadow?

Doug

I'm sending you a few of my 156 grain Devastators...answer the e-mail i sent you, couple of questions...

Quote from: ShadeTreeVTX on January 15 2014 08:08:20 PM MST
Well I ordered 500rds of 180 gr TCFN from Byou Bullets  and should have them in about 5 days, Than I;m going to give than h^ll in the G29 and maybe the G20 -just to see for myself how well they hold in the Glock barrels and the LW barrels - by the way - does anyone know of anyone who sells hard cast hollow point bullets in 180 and 200 gr?? maybe I could set up a jig and drill some of my 220 gr hard cast into hollow points- Hmmmmmm

I can't comment on Bayou Bullets, but my home cast powder coated bullets run great through Glock barrels. The main thing is to have them sized larger than the bore (you do need to slug your bore; just drive a cast bullet through it and measure).

BTW, you don't want "hard cast" bullets for hollow points. They need to be softer; standard commercial casting alloys are generally way too hard for most hollow points to function correctly.

I saw a website the other day that sells cast hollow points from what appear to be Mihec molds. It looked like he had most of Miha's best designs, which I can vouch for as I have them too; my Mihec 9, .40, and .45 hollow point molds are the best shooters I have in each caliber. Problem is, I can't find the website now. It may have been a link from here, but who knows. Keep searching, it's out there.

Edit - Doh! schooltee posted the link on the previous page, and said he bought them unsized and unlubed. Here: http://www.gtbullets.com/index.php?main_page=index