1984 Reviews of the Bren-Ten & Falcon 1991

Started by schtoolee, December 22 2013 02:46:57 AM MST

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schtoolee

I was looking through my old catalogs and spotted these, figured someone here might be interested. Both in PDF format. Link to download, right below the picture.

The first is a Aug. 1984 review in Guns and Ammo. Some info on the original PSI. specs of the 10mm when it first came out.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ZkxtjE_AyLa2dMaUh2Z2ZJWnM/edit?usp=sharing

The second is Dec.1984 Weapon


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ZkxtjE_AyLZ0dIdFdwTUdIXzg/edit?usp=sharing
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schtoolee

#1
If you like these, I found others  AMT, S&W. models. Also some on just the 10mm ammo at the time. Still looking through pile of catalogs. Let me know if you want more.

Will add the Falcon here since it was to be the next Bren-Ten


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ZkxtjE_AyLTVNHbHBYQUJJVkE/edit?usp=sharing
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Intercooler

Are these set to publicly share? It could be just me but couldn't get them.

schtoolee

They should be set up so that "Anyone who has the link can view". Are you clicking on the link below the picture? The picture is just a picture of the front of the magazine.
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4949shooter

#5
Interesting. The article exhibits a lot of traits that were inherent to articles of its day.

I see that Col. Cooper wanted the safety in the same location as his vaunted 1911, so he could carry the Bren Ten cocked and locked and have the safety in a location he was used to. I wonder if this change in the CZ design contributed to the problems associated with the Bren Ten, and its lack of success? I guess we will never know.

Thanks for posting this.

pacapcop

Id say the Limited Pro 10mm is about as close as one get's to a Bren style without various features Bren had. If I had the 2 NIB in front of me, I would choose the Tanfo.

BEEMER!

Quote from: 4949shooter on December 22 2013 05:46:39 AM MST
Interesting. The article exhibits a lot of traits that were inherent to articles of its day.

I see that Col. Cooper wanted the safety in the same location as his vaunted 1911, so he could carry the Bren Ten cocked and locked and have the safety in a location he was used to. I wonder if this change in the CZ design contributed to the problems associated with the Bren Ten, and its lack of success? I guess we will never know.

Thanks for posting this.

The  Bren Ten's had lots of problems and I do not feel that the 1911 style safety caused any of them.  Foremost was the lack of quality magazines and then the total lack of magazines.  They were actually shipping pistols without magazines if you can believe that.

Then the cast slides which had cracks or other flaws which could not be seen with the naked eye.  Customers were shooting their new pistols and cracks were developing.

Finally they got behind and were running out of money so to build new pistols they were forced to use out of spec parts and I have been told they were actually fitting them with bench grinders to get something out the door.

Starting a venture under financed has been the downfall of many.

4949shooter

Quote from: BEEMER! on December 22 2013 08:31:43 AM MST
Quote from: 4949shooter on December 22 2013 05:46:39 AM MST
Interesting. The article exhibits a lot of traits that were inherent to articles of its day.

I see that Col. Cooper wanted the safety in the same location as his vaunted 1911, so he could carry the Bren Ten cocked and locked and have the safety in a location he was used to. I wonder if this change in the CZ design contributed to the problems associated with the Bren Ten, and its lack of success? I guess we will never know.

Thanks for posting this.

The  Bren Ten's had lots of problems and I do not feel that the 1911 style safety caused any of them.  Foremost was the lack of quality magazines and then the total lack of magazines.  They were actually shipping pistols without magazines if you can believe that.

Then the cast slides which had cracks or other flaws which could not be seen with the naked eye.  Customers were shooting their new pistols and cracks were developing.

Finally they got behind and were running out of money so to build new pistols they were forced to use out of spec parts and I have been told they were actually fitting them with bench grinders to get something out the door.

Starting a venture under financed has been the downfall of many.

That's good to know. Thanks for the info!

The_Shadow

schtoolee, Thank you for these postings of the original articles...The "Pull-Down" they did in the magazine "9 grains of stick powder" matches somewhat with the "Pull-Down" I did that shows 9.6 - 9.8 grains of rod/stick shaped powders.

The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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The_Shadow

You have more Bren Ten materials???  Man these have me looking for more! :o
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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enidpd804

Man, that brings back memories.  I still want one. 
Warren

schtoolee

Quote from: The_Shadow on December 22 2013 06:22:22 PM MST
You have more Bren Ten materials???  Man these have me looking for more! :o
I still have some more mags to look thorough , but that is all I have seen on the Bren-ten  sofar. I have one on the Javilin, and several on the S&W models, and I think one on the Omaga. Will start putting more on here  after Xmas.
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pacapcop

Intresting title on first magazine at top."Gun Control:Deceit In Schools.

P33v3

Quote from: schtoolee on December 22 2013 06:56:02 PM MST
Quote from: The_Shadow on December 22 2013 06:22:22 PM MST
You have more Bren Ten materials???  Man these have me looking for more! :o
I still have some more mags to look thorough , but that is all I have seen on the Bren-ten  sofar. I have one on the Javilin, and several on the S&W models, and I think one on the Omaga. Will start putting more on here  after Xmas.

There is always this website: http://www.bren-ten.com/website/