Quote from: The_Shadow on November 11 2013 03:54:26 PM MST
Hey that round didn't even fire, the damage was from a previous round or was it damaged prior to putting it in the gun?

Hmmm... duh, you're right Shadow....

I wonder, then, if the round popped out of the mag during the slide cycle, jumping ahead of the extractor.... and then having the extractor snapping OVER the rim of the round?

Quote from: nickE10mm on November 11 2013 03:33:45 PM MST

Yea, that's quite a grab mark ....

Does the Para have a flat bottomed firing pin stop?  What recoil spring weight do they ship it with?  I'm wondering about if that ammo has the Para's slide opening a bit early...

LMAO, that's not a grab mark, I guess the sun hit it wrong and I'm just working with a cell phone here. Somebody had requested a pic showing chamber support. When I read your post I looked at the photo and busted out laughing, it looks bad. I only had a little scoring (2 scratches) no damage like what the photo looks to be. I have to idea what the spring weight is but it feels strong. I have asked Travis Tomasie and he's gonna find out for me. I'll check the FP stop, I haven't paid any attention to it. That was a fresh round I stuck in the barrel after getting her cleaned up.

Quote from: MCQUADE on November 11 2013 03:57:28 PM MST

Quote from: nickE10mm on November 11 2013 03:33:45 PM MST

Yea, that's quite a grab mark ....

Does the Para have a flat bottomed firing pin stop?  What recoil spring weight do they ship it with?  I'm wondering about if that ammo has the Para's slide opening a bit early...

LMAO, that's not a grab mark, I guess the sun hit it wrong and I'm just working with a cell phone here. Somebody had requested a pic showing chamber support. When I read your post I looked at the photo and busted out laughing, it looks bad. I only had a little scoring (2 scratches) no damage like what the photo looks to be. I have to idea what the spring weight is but it feels strong. I have asked Travis Tomasie and he's gonna find out for me. I'll check the FP stop, I haven't paid any attention to it. That was a fresh round I stuck in the barrel after getting her cleaned up.

LOL.... I just had a good chuckle myself because when I FIRST saw this post on my CELL PHONE email client, the picture looked like you had a case web blowout.... Good think I held my tongue until I could inspect it on a computer screen. LOL!

Well after reading McQuade's post after I posted the picture (my niece was yanking on my shirt to go make her a fire to roast marshmallows) and again another follow up, this statement seems to not apply...

QuoteIt looks like the brass was damaged prior to being loaded or finished loaded.  It could have snagged in the Camdex loader while being advanced, tearing a hole in the casing. 

If it was done by the Para it would have caused a stoppage, stovepipe/trapping or jam against the feed ramp?

Looks like a mechanic type damage!

I bet Pera used a 16# spring maybe 18# at best, and even with 6" slides little bit extra weight it should have had 20# spring minium. Even the mighty Kimber TLE only comes with 18# recoil spring and was throwing the brass 25 feet with factory Remington 180g TC and about 30 with factory Win 175 Silvertips and my 180 PD/hunting hand loads went into next county I guess as I was never able to find them. I put the Kimber up till I got home and put a 20# recoil spring and EGW FPS in the gun.

I'm thinking 18 lbs. too, it just feels stronger to me 'cause its longer. It's chunking them shells 30 feet!!

Ok. I need the genius mathematicians here. Just got the "official" word from Para, the recoil spring is a "54 coil flat wire chrome silica, weight not quanitive". WTF?  I might add that Travis Tomasie has been of the upmost help with this whole deal, he's a great guy!    LASTLY, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE CRAPPY PHOTO, it was ment to show chamber support only! My apologies to Shadow for asking him to post such a shoddy pic. He didn't know what the pic regarded.  It was a case of me knowing what I was taking a pic of and the rest of you not. Again, my apologies.           

Man it did look like that round was messed up!  Had me wondering what the hell! as I studied it further.  Hey it goes to show you sometimes things aren't what they seem!

Prob means they are using a progressive spring.

Anyhow, my Fusion LS came with 20, 22 and 24lb springs. It works fine with all but I think the best weight is 20lb so that's what I leave in mine.

The support picture shows a good amount not supported.  Better than a stock Delta but less support of the Kimber or Dan Wesson.  The .008" is good slop for feeding!

Quote from: Retired Squid on November 11 2013 05:34:52 AM MST
Either you guys can't hit the broad side of a barn, you have size issues or most likely have brought a hand gun to a rifle situation.

What if it is all three?? o_O 

I need a triple stack 10mm LOL

Play dead!!! 

Quote from: Retired Squid on November 12 2013 08:53:41 AM MST
Play dead!!! 

:-D

Well, I've passed the 800 rd. mark with no failures at all. Majority of ammo has been Underwood with a few assorted old Doubletaps, Winchester's, and weakish Remington's. Various bullet weights have been shot thus far from the Win. 175's and up. I've been having fun with thus one, perfect function and controllable. I'm going to settle down for some serious accuracy test the next few days but as of now it seems the Underwood 200 XTP is working best. I spoke with a factory rep about the weight of the recoil spring, they rate it at approx. 28lbs. The EGW extractor must be doing a hell of a job cause the brass from the Underwood loads is still going 30 feet. The one and only thing I do not like about this gun so far is the fit of the front sight. There is noticeable light in the dovetail but the sight is tight. It appears an aftermarket sight was used and does not fill the dovetail. It looks kinda "funky" but I can be of a perfectionist at times, especially on a $1000+ gun. Everything does function as it should though and I've got her cleaned up and de-leaded for some bullseyes and beer cans. More to come....

Somebody's havin' some fun!    Carry ON!