CO. Apt. Bans Guns

Started by Steve4102, August 07 2013 08:27:53 AM MDT

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The story said; KUSA legal analyst Scott Robinson said courts have generally supported landlords' rights to impose "reasonable regulations" on their tenants.

"The question is: is an outright ban of firearms reasonable in light of the U.S. Constitution?" Robinson told KUSA.


That's really what it comes down to.  I'm not a lawyer, but a few thoughts come to mind:

The ex-US Marine in the story already lives there and has had his guns there before the apartment management came up with the new anti-gun orders.  He already in the past signed a contract that didn't not allow guns.  I don't know what the lease terms are or what clauses may be in the lease allowing for future changes to it.  Anyway, depending on how everything is, maybe he would have a case on related grounds.

This is his home.  In our home, rented, leased, or owned, we have certain rights by law by various levels of gov't, that some landlord of an apartment complex can't necessarily take away or add.  The apartment management can make up any bogus claim they want but it doesn't mean they are legal in doing so.  In regard to pets, sure, there is no right to have a pet, therefore than can tell you you can't have pets.  But if they banned clothing, there are all kinds of laws at many gov't levels that wouldn't stand for it, and the apartment management wouldn't be allowed to ban clothing (I'm assuming people are legally expected to wear clothes in CO.  ;D).

Many things are allowed by law in your dwelling place that aren't necessarily allowed elsewhere, regardless if you rent, lease, or own.

Anyway, just some thoughts.  The courts are there to sort it all out.  I honestly doubt the Apartment management has grounds to stand on.  Though they would get away with it regardless if no one takes a stand against it whether it's legal or not.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

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Quote from: Steve4102 on August 08 2013 08:00:39 AM MDTAnyhow it doesn't matter to the residents of this complex as the policy has been dropped.

http://www.9news.com/rss/article/349123/339/Apartments-firearm-policy-thrown-out

LOL, didn't see you posted this till after I posted.  Well pointed out!  Glad to see it worked out that way.  There's hope yet.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Mike_Fontenot

From the 9News article:

"The company's owner, Debi Ross, and her husband have given $9,000, only to Democrats, since 2006."

That explains it all.

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More evidence of people who make decisions based on emotion over reality.  Or, maybe they really do prefer government making all their livelihood decisions for them.  Either way they are ignorant, not being intelligent toward what they wish for.

Funny they wanted to be centered in a gun free zone of their own making (attempted anyway).  They must have overlooked most mass shootings occurring in gun free zones.  Or maybe they are in with the hypocritical liberal bunch who keep guns for themselves while doing their best to disarm everyone else around them.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Steve4102

QuoteOr maybe they are in with the hypocritical liberal bunch who keep guns for themselves while doing their best to disarm everyone else around them. 

I'm sure, but these tenants would not be "Around them".   The owners of the Ross Management group most likely have a very nice mansion estate with a gate and quite possibly armed guards. 

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Good point Steve4102.  Very possible.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

RkyMtn

Yes, Colorado has changed pretty fast in the 19 years I have been here.  The liberal CA folks have moved in and are taking over.  I don't think the apartment building owners have a leg to stand on in court with this, but I assume they are thinking of doing what they can to deflect any lawsuits that would come their way for a shooting incident in a building, since the shooter would likely not have any money or assets to fund the plaintiffs retirement.  It is a sad world that is coming to fruition in the US.  The kinds of litigation that are being put forth make it dangerous for anyone to do most anything, now.
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LeMat

Quote from: Mr. AR50 on August 07 2013 11:06:29 AM MDT
I was born and raised in Colorado. Been here almost 50 years, and I can't believe how fast the liberals have destroyed this once great state. It's time to secede- North Colorado, the 51st State!
Same exact thing has happened here in Montana.
This situation is exactly like 1994 and 2009.  Shooters responded emotionally to some threat that did not exist.  Some persons who wanted to appear "in the know" or "connected" used the internet forums to repeat these "sky is falling" rumors over and over until people believed i

sqlbullet

My state has a castle doctrine that encompasses your domocile and vehicle.  You don't have to own them.  It is written so it even covers motel/hotel rooms and rental cars.  If I have paid for the accommodation, it becomes my castle, and I can possess and carry a gun therein.