I wish somebody made a DA .475 Maximum

Quote from: gofastman on August 05 2013 11:02:31 AM MDTI wish somebody made a DA .475 Maximum.

Quote from: gofastman on August 05 2013 08:58:30 AM MDTI guess Id better load up a few hundred mild .454 rounds and put in some seat time with the Super Redhawk.  Maybe a .454 Rossi would be a good purchase  I have also been pondering a .480 SRH.

There really are some great big bore super magnum level options out there.  Of course the 454 Casull as you've mentioned.  475 & 500 Linebaugh offerings, 460 & 500 S&W offerings, 500 Wyoming Express by Freedom Arms, other Maximums and Super Mags, and the Magnum Research BFR revolvers that you can buy chambered in:  30-30 Wichester, 444 Marlin, 45-70 Gov't, 450 Marlin, and numerous others, some of which were mentioned already, and others not.

You're right though, not much available out there in DA.  Doesn't bother me, but to each their own.

Quote from: Ramjet on August 02 2013 08:19:39 AM MDT
yea but CW with my suggestion he has and excuse to go buy another handgun and that my friend is a good thing.

RIGHT ON BROTHER!!  An ''excuse'' is all many of us need!!!

CW

Quote from: DM1906 on August 02 2013 09:29:17 AM MDT

Quote from: cwlongshot on August 02 2013 03:45:35 AM MDT
If you get close, use good ammo and bullets, pick your shots and make them good, the 10 will do the job just fine... 


Like most animals in the USA the 30-30 has killed more than any others. Its of allot less power then the ''experts'' say is needed too. 

CW

Just how close do you really want to get to a 7 foot tall (shoulders), 1,500 pound bull? Alaskan moose are of the largest on Earth. I wouldn't hunt moose with a .30-30, not that you couldn't. Still, it has more than twice the bullet energy of the healthiest of healthy 10mm Auto. Comparing moose to any common "deer" is just silly. Cows aren't as large as bulls, but still at least 3-4X that of any whitetail, and all attitude if she's got a calf nearby. Bulls don't need a reason. If you're close enough to get a pistol shot (with something as puny as the 10mm), you're too close. You won't have enough bullets, and you're dead before you reload. This animal can run at 30 MPH for 100 yds, after having it's lungs blown out. I don't mean any disrespect to anyone in this discussion, but it's just silly. A wrong turn here will get you killed. Moose kill more people than black bear, brown bear, grizz, and wolves combined. Probably gators and sharks too, but I don't recall hearing about them in the stats. I haven't checked, but it may not even be legal to hunt moose with an auto pistol, for the reason Shadow pointed out. Many/most states have minimum power requirements for taking game.

An exaggeration? Perhaps, but just a little.

I have been very close to Moose MANY TIMES! They surely can be dangerous but they are NOT A PREDATOR, WE are and THEY know it! The bulls do get a bit belligerent during the rut, sure.  (My Loose knowledge is on Maine/Canada Moose.)

I have never herd your stats on moose human kills, I feel you have miss read something tho. I will say this about Moose killing humans, they DO usually win a car moose collision... They usually have to be put down as the car breaks there legs as they are usually above the hoods. Out right attacks of a moose chasing down and killing a human are not so common.

Don't fool yourself for one moment, the 10MM WILL put them down. They are NOT hard to kill.

CW

That's almost humorous right there. You're comparing your experience with east coast moose to Alaskan species. That's like comparing a spaniel to a bull mastiff (they're both dogs, but hardly the same) 600-800# vs. 1300-1600#, with accordingly proportionate attitudes. Both comparisons equally capable of aggressive behavior, with capabilities proportionate to their mass. And no, they aren't "not hard to kill". Add to that, moose ain't the only dangerous critters in Alaska, unlike your neck of the woods. The "stats" are correct, and don't include vehicle vs. animals. "Aggressive encounters" is the term, I believe, which may include animal vs. vehicle, which isn't the same. Bovine bulls and goats aren't predators either, but they don't charge because they're out of cash.

More power to ya.

No need to get your feathers ruffled!    NO OFFENSE meant brother we are just talking here!!!

1600# Alaska Moose is a REAR breed,  but 1000+ Easterns DRESSED have become common place... Been around them my hole life.

http://www.maine.gov/ifw/wildlife/species/moose/

We even Chased a big cow with a calf out of the yard, just this AM...  This one went easy, one time we had to use the truck. Most you just bang a couple pans together, the ornery ones I send the dog. 

CW

QuoteThis one went easy, one time we had to use the truck. Most you just bang a couple pans together, the ornery ones I send the dog

Bull Mastif.......

I would use my handloads on moose.   I don't think I would use factory ammo. I personally would use a 205 gr flat nose at 1400 fps.  More than enough. 

Quote from: Ramjet on August 07 2013 06:43:09 PM MDT

QuoteThis one went easy, one time we had to use the truck. Most you just bang a couple pans together, the ornery ones I send the dog

Bull Mastif.......

LOL...  140# Rott 



This is a queen sized bed..





CW

Saw a recent episode of    Alaskan state troopers.  Guy called in and told the dispatcher he just shot and killed 2 moose who were attacking his dog. Trooper showed up and the guy had killed both moose with a glock 10 mm. And had lots of bullets to spare

A properly placed shot with a 180 + grain 10mm will definitely take down about anything.

The question is can you make the shot under extreme pressure?

Quote from: taters on August 14 2013 08:42:47 PM MDT
Saw a recent episode of    Alaskan state troopers.  Guy called in and told the dispatcher he just shot and killed 2 moose who were attacking his dog. Trooper showed up and the guy had killed both moose with a glock 10 mm. And had lots of bullets to spare

I remember that now!  I knew I had seen somewhere that much be it.. IIRC it was even FMJ bullets!!

There was blood and moose carcases in his drive way!!! They where attacking his dog IIRC.

CW

Watched an episode of.   True stories of Alaskan state troopers.  A guy called in saying his dog was attacked by two moose.  He killed them both with a glock 20. With bullets to spare in the magazine. They hauled away the moose to a food bank.

I spent 35 years in Alaska and during that time took at least 2 dozen moose.  Most with a bow.

1  If there are plenty of moose to provide you with lots of opportunities
2  and you have lots of time to hunt
3  and you are proficient with your 10mm

there should be no problem.

However,....like Elmer Keith once said, "If your family is hungry and the only shot you get is the rear end of an Elk as he jumps up and runs away from you, use a gun capable of driving a bullet through the hindquarters and still have enough energy left to destroy the vitals. "  Of course, I paraphrase.

If you only have time for one opportunity - forget it.
If you aren't good at stalking (to get into range & position)  - forget it.
If you can't pass up everything but the perfect shot placement  - forget it.

I have shot Alaskan moose with revolvers before. The problem is not killing the moose it is stopping it from going somewhere you don't it to go, for example, a swamp or river.
Pick your shot and hit him in a lung and it will die eventually but will wander around for maybe miles. I've used a 454 casull but in the future would use either my 475 Linebaugh or a 500 JRH.